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    Default Pig Sightings - December 2015

    Here's a note from one of the Rangeland Management Specialists.


    The pigs are really starting to move now. I'm seeing tracks all over. Not a whole lot, but singles here and there. C1, C6, C3, C4


    Additionally (in reference to expected heavy rains):


    "Please do not drive on wet dirt roads. The tracks left will channel water and make the roads even worse. This is where we start seeing a lot of the gully washes made on the roads. Also if 4WD is available on a vehicle, please drive on the dirt roads with it engaged, in at least 4 high, at all times. Some people do not use it unless they start having handling difficulties, but the 4WD will give them extra stability and helps to prevent damage to roads (washboards especially). This will help to reduce CE workload and maintain a good road system for all base personnel."
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    Thanks Dave, that's good news!
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    Good advice for sure

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    Was out on the 24th In C-1 below the bridge along the creek pigs have been rooting quite a bit looks like there coming from private property and crossing over could not get up high so cant saying anything about the top of C-1 good luck to all and have a Happy and safe New Year.

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    Hey Thanks alot for the report RUGAME! NOW everyone that hunts VAFB will be in that area. Have you ever heard the saying "LOOSE LIPS SINKS SHIPS" ? Why would you want to give up areas that you spent work, gas,time, money to everyone on a public forum? Think about it.

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    Thanks Rugame.

    That was on my list of places to check. Glad to see the hogs coming back...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willies270 View Post
    Hey Thanks alot for the report RUGAME! NOW everyone that hunts VAFB will be in that area. Have you ever heard the saying "LOOSE LIPS SINKS SHIPS" ? Why would you want to give up areas that you spent work, gas,time, money to everyone on a public forum? Think about it.
    You don't have to go there if you don't want. Nor do you have to share your locations. You can keep others off the property if you own it; but even if you own it you can't stop them from talking about it.
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    Once again you have missed the COMMON SENSE point. So let me break it down... Lets say I had been putting alot of time into an area and was chasing a decent animal, and along came a guy (RUGAME) and he post on the forum the spot I was hunting. Now everyone sitting a couple hundred miles away reads (LT DAN) and others drive down for the weekend and go to said spot. Have some respect for the hunters putting in the work! If you want to give up your spot usea PM. Dont spoil peoples hunts!

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    Willies, why you gotta be that way? You rarely post, but when you do, you're bitter.

    I've hunted the base for 25 years, I've been to all the "spots". They've all held pigs at one time or another. Just because there was rooting in a spot a week ago doesn't guarantee a pig. You still have to hunt them.

    I'm more interested in the fact that the pigs are coming back on the base then exactly where they're at. So in C-1 I'll hit the bridge area, the pump house on globe, the corral area, the top of globe, the goal posts, the bottom of globe near the badlands and the springs down there. I'll work the spring on the curve on Cumbar. Those are all my "spots" in C-1.

    One of my all time favorite spots is in C-3 along grant road, lots of rooting there, and west of the camp ground on Grant, once it opens again. The valleys east of the Grant camp ground are nice too.

    How about B-4, the fields on Terra Road? or the Bunker down by the preserve? Worth checking again. I've killed pigs on the beach road, west of rail road tracks in B-4.

    The point is, none of those are secret spots and are all well known pig areas. The only news RUGAME gave me was that the pigs were back in C-1, one day last week.

    Willies, you might want to stay home over 15-18 Jan. I'll be up putting in the boot leather in my "spots" and I wouldn't want you to blow a gasket.

    Seriously, I worry about your health. Your anger issues must put a strain on you and stress is bad for your constitution.

    You act like the base is your private preserve....it's not.
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    Oh, with a nod to bigbadboar:
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    Don't know how you came up with all of that ltdan but it looks like it took a while to write. I will try to come out Jan 15-18 and if I see you parked at one of "your Spots" I will make sure to honk the horn and wave. Wouldn't want you thinking I'm "blowing gaskets". Seriously what did you put in your coffee this morning ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willies270 View Post
    If you want to give up your spot usea PM. Dont spoil peoples hunts!
    He may have spoiled your hunts, but them "other peoples" hunt may have been improved.
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    Seriously gentlemen????.... It's a big place to hunt... You can't pattern a pig like a deer so if the info is that pigs are back than everybody should be happy... Hunting is not guaranteed.... I understand both views but no need to fight over the beans that's been spilled already... This is a great forum and lets keep it that way... Now the race is on to who gets there 1st and who is more lucky or skilled.... For people like me and others that can't get in...Damn I'm envious and jealous.... But if u all need a partner.... PM or just invite me publicly now.... hahaha.... Goodluck and don't forget to post pictures
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    I for one like it when guys don't act like the own the world. I have read some of the post in the past and as Dann says they are bitter. Why come to a place like this for that crap. Some of us are here to help each other and share. We are not all a bunch of selfish dudes. Most if not all of us country boys had a few Cowboys to look up to. Lucky for us they share and give education at the same time. Don't worry WM, I will get you on base at some point. We have a lot of hunting to do all over this state in the years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willies270 View Post
    Don't know how you came up with all of that ltdan but it looks like it took a while to write. I will try to come out Jan 15-18 and if I see you parked at one of "your Spots" I will make sure to honk the horn and wave. Wouldn't want you thinking I'm "blowing gaskets". Seriously what did you put in your coffee this morning ?
    Sure, your welcome anytime. I'll be on top of C-1 in the white Chevy 4x4. If your nice, I'll offer you some coffee.
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    Went up to camp roberts this past weekend and a fellow hunter gave me some pointers not spots but pointers and it made it alot easier to enjoy
    I agree with not giving up spacific spots that you've worked hard for but to not give general pointers to people rookie to an area?
    That's just being a good person and wanting everyone to have a good successful time
    But I really really do understand not wanting spacific spot to be given out
    I used to fish bass tournaments and anyone who has done these knows how important secret spots can be

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltdann View Post
    Willies, why you gotta be that way? You rarely post, but when you do, you're bitter.

    I've hunted the base for 25 years, I've been to all the "spots". They've all held pigs at one time or another. Just because there was rooting in a spot a week ago doesn't guarantee a pig. You still have to hunt them.

    I'm more interested in the fact that the pigs are coming back on the base then exactly where they're at. So in C-1 I'll hit the bridge area, the pump house on globe, the corral area, the top of globe, the goal posts, the bottom of globe near the badlands and the springs down there. I'll work the spring on the curve on Cumbar. Those are all my "spots" in C-1.

    One of my all time favorite spots is in C-3 along grant road, lots of rooting there, and west of the camp ground on Grant, once it opens again. The valleys east of the Grant camp ground are nice too.

    How about B-4, the fields on Terra Road? or the Bunker down by the preserve? Worth checking again. I've killed pigs on the beach road, west of rail road tracks in B-4.

    The point is, none of those are secret spots and are all well known pig areas. The only news RUGAME gave me was that the pigs were back in C-1, one day last week.

    Willies, you might want to stay home over 15-18 Jan. I'll be up putting in the boot leather in my "spots" and I wouldn't want you to blow a gasket.

    Seriously, I worry about your health. Your anger issues must put a strain on you and stress is bad for your constitution.

    You act like the base is your private preserve....it's not.
    This is too much to write, could you just text it all to me? And um what about GPS coordinates????
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    Went up to camp roberts this past weekend and a fellow hunter gave me some pointers not spots but pointers and it made it alot easier to enjoy
    I agree with not giving up spacific spots that you've worked hard for but to not give general pointers to people rookie to an area?
    That's just being a good person and wanting everyone to have a good successful time
    But I really really do understand not wanting spacific spot to be given out
    I used to fish bass tournaments and anyone who has done these knows how important secret spots can be

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    Wow, one of these threads again, thanks to willie hanging his willie out. I'll say this, I could give GPS locations to many of my hunting spots, true honey holes in my book, and the vast majority of (dare I say), hunters, would say there are no (fill in the blank with the species you desire) there, unless of course that species walked right up to them. If they do manage to find game, it's because they don't need my honey hole, as they have the skills, knowledge, and ability to find honey holes all on there own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k_rad View Post
    This is too much to write, could you just text it all to me? And um what about GPS coordinates????
    Sure Kevin! I've seen pigs or killed them in each of those spots...or know someone that did. Doesn't mean anything though, because when it comes to hogs, their rarely in the same spot 2 days in a row.

    Here's a sure fire place to get your hog.....Even Willies could probably score here 33.9780056,-117.3775424
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    Disclosing hunting locations is a topic that comes up extremely often. It's an ethical question to which there is no answer (Ford vs Chevy vs Dodge [personally I own a Dodge....and go for it Ford/Chevy/Toyota fans]) only opinions. There is no right answer and all we can hope is that we express our opinions as being just opinions and to not put denigrating comments into our conversations.
    Personally...I believe that hunting locations belong to those who found them. If I find a spot it's my personal decision to release this information or not...I own the information (not the location). And typically I have no issue releasing generalized information (ie hunt in this mountain range) or if it's an area that I'm not going to hunt again (or very infrequently) I may give away more specific information.
    If I hunt/use an area that a friend gave me I will not give that location away because it was a gift and the location (ie information) does not belong to me. I'm careful about giving away additional information that I find as a result of that location. This is because I feel that they're tied together and fruit of a forbidden tree.
    But all of this is my ethics and no one else's. The thought that I should impose these rules on others is odd to me because it's simply a difference of opinion. I'm more likely to share my information with those whose ethics align with (or are more conservative) than mine but again it's a value judgement. They're are no clear laws or commonly accepted ethics on this issue.
    Just my 2 cents.

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    Fishnhunt, I agree with you about sharing general areas or an area that's been shown to you. With VAFB, all the areas that I mentioned are well known to any hog hunter that's been on the base more than a few times.

    The bridge area Rugame mentions is on the only road into the C-1 hunting area (probably 10,000 acres). It's paved and on the boundary of the hunt zone (pt Sal Road). Each and every time I go in and out of that area, I stop and look at the fields. As does just about every hog and deer hunter out there. Because the bridge is higher than the fields, ANY activity, movement or rooting is visible to anyone willing to roll down the window and stick out a pair of bino's. In fact, pictures and stories about pigs taken in those very fields have been posted on this website in the past.

    Rugame was helpful....Willie was...well, himself.
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    There must be some sort of secret hunting ethics code between hunting bro's about giving up honey holes and locations that some of us don't know or haven't heard about yet....lol
    Anyways if u want someplace to hunt and have it all to yourself buy your own privite property.........tra
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    Well LtDan I have listened to you run your mouth once again about how well you know the base and I'm bitter person and whatever else you claim I am. I will tell you that I am passionate about the future of hunting and with that it is the kids whom is the future. So why did I make this an interesting thread? I will tell you since you seem to bullheaded or selfish to understand. I have been taking 2 kids to the area that RUGAME mentioned for over a month chasing a couple decent hogs that the kid was excited to finally try to harvest their FIRST hog after we seen them, and they want to keep going out till they see them again. Then I read the post giving up the spot they were working and it irritated me for their sake of having to deal with other hunters that are sitting in their chairs 4hrs away such as yourself waiting for some good news to come up maybe 2 or 3 times a year. I want to see the kid fill their tag before some else. Especially when they have froze their butts off and dedicated to chasing this animal. Now including yourself and others reading has given you motivation to come up which may interrupt their time spent in the field. In my opinion if RUGAMe didnt make a comment that area wouldnt be on anyones mind. No worries they will keep at it despite, I just hope no one is in the spot and they get discoraged. Unlike yourself Dan you dont hear me bragging about every spot you have seen animals in and how great of a hunter you are. I have a different agenda..the future of hunting.. just read my post

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    A good entertaining VAFB pig thread! Good luck on your hunts guys!
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    Willy i think its great that u are mentoring young people and future hunters and that's success already even if they don't harvest. u can teach them how to deal with situations in the field if they run into other hunters in the same area they are hunting, u and them are just going to have to make the best of all situations that may arise in the field when hunting, there's just somethings u won't be able to control or avoid that's just a part of hunting when u have to share the same space with others, in that case it's about understanding and respect when u have encounters with other hunters who are in the same hunting grounds.
    Good luck on your future hunts with the young ones and wish them great success and sooner or later it will all come together ........tra
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    geez that explains why willie is being such a Richard. Willie, great, your mentoring kinds, and have invested everything in one spot, so it appears that you think you now own it, along with the right to curb free speach. Frankly, I think you could benifit from LtDan's tootilage, but you appear much to butt hurt to appreciate anyones wisdom, rights...

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    HAPPY NEW YEAR (almost)!!!!

    Can I just say this has been the best post ever! It offers something for every hunter from comedy (you cracked me up ltdann), to drama (I hear you willie, but wow) to some very thoughtful comments such as fishnhunt's. I have not laughed this hard in a while because ya'll are funny and keeping it pretty real all at once.

    I believe the initial info was shared in good faith and with nod to good sportsmanship to fellow hunters and I respect that. That being said I understand the frustration of willies270 when a place he frequents basically makes it onto the HNN (Hunter News Network..) for all to read. We are all competing for the same resources as offered by VAFB and usually what sets apart most successful hunts from not is knowledge of the base and time spent there. Its hard when you find a good reliable spot and it is filled with other hunters chasing the same critters you are.

    But, it happens... We had a good deer season 2015 and had knowledge for others to hopefully put them on good deer during the past season. The info we shared helped a couple fellow hunters fill their tags and it was neat to be able to help point them in the right direction. We chose to share knowledge with friends and fellow hunters who have invested time and boot tread hunting the base over the years. I would not choose to share all I saw this season with some of the other hunters who showed not a lick of "hunter courtesy" for us or others during deer season 2015. WE were buck blocked on more than one occasion by some real twits who just made it apparent why not all hunters are made equal. But it happens... And we got over it and managed to still have a good season.

    Live and learn and teach a future generation what we have a passion for and I guarantee that a well taught hunter can be the result. Teach them how to deal with disappointment and failure (a regular occurrence on most hunting trips) with grace and dignity and you'll probably raise a youngster with good coping skills and the heart to never give up. Teach him to be a twit with careless disregard for others and you'll definitely reap what you sow..... Its ok to be competitive and want to do well be it hunting or any other endeavor. It makes us better at what we're doing. But you can do it with a set of standards that keeps you motivated and enthusiastic without being an ass.

    Oh, and here is a thought. I have been blessed with hunting this base with family and friends for over forty years and during all those years the "bridge" has always one of many good spots to scout and hunt for pigs. This is not new to many of us and the kicker is after forty years it still is one of the good spots. Even in the toughest driest conditions it still produces. So with respect and without dismissing anyone's point of view, get over it and hunt!

    And don't forget to value the whole package that comes with hunt. Some of my best days of hunting were without ever firing a shot or filling a tag. We have as much fun remembering the good times spent with family and friends in the hills eating cold C-rations (when your young stuff like that seemed edible!!) or taking a nap under a tree only to wake up face to face with a huge buck yards away staring at us (4x4) and he got away clean. I would hope those of you with youngsters either already know that or will learn it as you go along.

    Take care and good night all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliJeephuntr View Post
    A good entertaining VAFB pig thread! Good luck on your hunts guys!
    Like fighting over the bridge in the river Kwai .

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    I'm just excited that pigs are back....anywhere on the base. And yeah, I drive the 600 miles roundtrip 4-6 times a year to hunt and scout, and have been for a lot of years. Am I successful? With deer...mostly. With pigs, rarely(Didn't anyone tell you? pig hunting is hard work!).

    A successful pig trip as one that I've actually seen a hog, regardless if I can get to it. I've put my boot leather on the ground and more than a little of my own blood over the years. Twice I've hunted with broken bones in my feet and can't remember how many times I've been treated for poison oak, cuts, bruises and strains etc.

    A couple of years back, I chased one boar for a year trying to get the drop on him, only to have a local guy wander in "trying out a new area", sit down and 1 minute later shoot the boar. It happens.

    I too help new hunters, unfamiliar with VAFB and often break off my own hunts to track wounded game or assist in game recovery. Your insinuation that I somehow swoop in and Bogart a spot is a none starter ( I did like the chair bit, though. I may have to try that ;-).

    One thing I've never done, is knowingly go into an area that's already being hunted, without getting permission first. Ever.

    You've got the home field advantage, with 365 day a year access. I maybe get 2 or 2 1/2 weeks a year so I'd appreciate it if you'd let me be content with the leftovers.

    Don't worry, be happy! The pigs are back! Rejoice! Go hunting! Oh, and please don't shoot wet sows.
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