Loking for a hunting partner

**GunGreg2107** · 07-02-2012, 12:10 AM

Hello I am an avid hunter and looking for a dog to add to my family and to be able to hunt with. I have a half acre fully fenced with a six foot block wall back yard, as well as years of experience with high drive working dogs. I am on a very limited budget and am looking for a dog primarily for upland style hunting but retriving would also be very nice. Please let me know if you have or know of any dog that may work thanks Greg

**Mt Goat** · 07-02-2012, 04:12 AM

Hi GunGreg

I have a couple GSP x ESP crossed females that I'm letting go cheap. They should be great hunters both the German Shorthair and the English Pointer bloodlines are excellent lines of Birddogs. I see your I Hesperia, I'm in Phelan. If interested shoot me a call 760-963-9790 ask for Larry

**jose562** · 07-02-2012, 08:57 AM

check your pm's. thanx

**warren nelson** · 07-04-2012, 07:59 AM

You can't go wrong with the pups that Mtgoat has, they are hunting machines with nice attiudes, My buddy got one and all I can say is WOW that pup is amazing. The 7 month old pup is doing everything right, last weekend he was honoring points behind a old dog, we haven't even started training him for that.
"Tick" will be head to SD this fall for pheasants with the rest of the pack.

**GunGreg2107** · 07-04-2012, 08:07 PM

Thanks Warren a buddy and I are planning on heading up to see Larry on friday morning. I guess I should confirm that with Larry we had talked about it but I guess I should call him. I like the liver male and my buddy is looking at the two females but really likes the look of the tickled one

**jimmiya** · 07-04-2012, 08:32 PM

My trainer is expecting pups in a week or two. Prob will mostly be all liver. Here is a my pup out of the mother

**ULTRACARRY** · 07-05-2012, 07:30 AM

Jim, letting your dog do that will get it shot. If the trainer allows it once the bird initially has been introduced, get a new trainer because yours isn't.

**Bayboy2020** · 07-05-2012, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by ULTRACARRY

Jim, letting your dog do that will get it shot. If the trainer allows it once the bird initially has been introduced, get a new trainer because yours isn't.

The dog is still on point as the bird is flushing what are you talking about

**Mt Goat** · 07-05-2012, 10:32 AM

Jim

What's the bloodlines of your liver dog in the picture ?

Larry Lowell

**Mt Goat** · 07-05-2012, 11:09 AM

Not all hunters, want or expect there to be steady to wing, shot, fall until sent to retrieve. Sure it's great to see but not practical for most hunters. Most trainers including myself will only train a pointing dog steady to flush during the dogs first training season, with 3 months of training. My personal goal is training steady to shot, but that depends on the young dogs Trainability, in the time allotted for training.

I personally have broke dogs and dogs that break on flush or shot. I don't hunt my broke dogs with dogs trained steady to flush or steady to shot. Keeping a dog broke when hunting with friends that hunt dogs that break on flush or shot, will eventually cause issue with the dog thats broke. When it come to hunting and the level a dog is trained, there is no right or wrong, we all have different styles of hunting and have different expectations for our dogs. Some hunters with dogs don't have endless funds and time it takes to get a dog broke and maintain that level of training. I've trained lots and lots of GREAT birddogs that break on flush or shot. Sure it's definity safer to hold to shot or until you send for the retrieve, but again it's not always practical or desired by every hunter. There are some hunters that want their dog on that downed bird as fast as they can. If the bird is hit but not killed having a dog on that bird before it gets to a hole in the ground or rock pile gives the hunter a better chance of putting that bird in his bag. Again to each his own.

Larry Lowell

**Mrfish62** · 07-05-2012, 03:49 PM

Ultracarry I don't know how you hunt or who you hunt with but If anyone shoots a dog such as Jimm's picture, they have no business hunting with any dog. I hunt a lab who will both point and flush wild roosters and chukar depending on if they are running or holding tight. She takes off for the bird as soon as it jumps and I have NEVER even come close to shoooting her. I make sure I have a clear shooting path before letting lead fly and i knock down as many birds as the next guy. It only takes the birds an extra second to clear enough space between your dog and them. If you don't have the patience and confidence to wait the extra second for the bird to clear into a safe shooting lane, don't hunt with a dog. Looks to me that Jimm's pointer was on its game and doing its job.

**jimmiya** · 07-05-2012, 04:11 PM

It's funny how people interpret pictures. Funny thing is that Woodrow was solid on point and did not jump up for the bird at all. I am very satisfied with his training and will never hunt with Ultracarry or people who do not pay attention to what there shooting beyond and around them like Mrfish stated

**jimmiya** · 07-05-2012, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Mt Goat

Jim

What's the bloodlines of your liver dog in the picture ?

Larry Lowell

Hard Point Kennels Eric Brewer

**GunGreg2107** · 07-05-2012, 06:09 PM

Thanks for all the advice guys I am 99.99% sure I am taking the almost solid liver male pup from the gspxep litter that larry hasand will be having Larry train him. I will be going to check him out tomorrow but have to admit I have already bought him toys,food,bowls,and a bed. I am now looking for suggestions for a name.

**Mrfish62** · 07-06-2012, 02:49 AM

Congrats greg, having a new pup is fun. I am going to try and breed my lab in the spring to get a lineage pup so i can start the training process again. If you get the chance try to train the dog yourself some too, nothing was more rewarding for me than watching my dog put what i taught her in training to use in the field. As far as a name goes, wait till you get the pup home and learn some about its personality!

**GunGreg2107** · 07-06-2012, 10:40 AM

Just got home from seeing the pups and boy was I impressed. All three are so naturally birdy, showing good points and lots of intense focus and desire for the birds. My buddy decided he liked the orange female and I decided on the ticked one. The male was super too and I went back and forth but was unsure how my male german shepherd would be around another male. I am picking her up tomorrow morning and am so excited. I think I will play around with training her myself as I have a background in dog training and see how it goes and meet up with Larry for some lessons and homework. Once again thanks Larry. Ill update when I get her

**ULTRACARRY** · 07-06-2012, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by jimmiya

It's funny how people interpret pictures. Funny thing is that Woodrow was solid on point and did not jump up for the bird at all. I am very satisfied with his training and will never hunt with Ultracarry or people who do not pay attention to what there shooting beyond and around them like Mrfish stated

Sweet! BTW you would never have to worry about hunting with me.....

I just didn't think anyone would post a pic of a dog that points with its front leg out.... Looks like the dog is in mid stride instead of pointing. Then again it is a picture.

**map** · 07-07-2012, 12:16 PM

A liver male pup? Sounds good. I'm looking for a small female, because I have a small backyard. Plenty of open space where I live.

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**sean english** · 07-08-2012, 02:48 PM

Congrats Greg.

**SoCalJamie** · 07-28-2012, 04:54 PM

I saw your post and I have a small, 36# female GSP that I need to find a good home for. She is a wonderful, good handling dog, but I just have too many dogs and I do not bird hunt. I just hunt my hounds. She is 4 yrs. old and was my grandpa's hunting partner's dog, I ended up with her when he was too old to keep her. He did have her professionally trained in Visalia so she knows what to do.

Give me a call if you are interested. Thanks

Jamie
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