cell phone use and driving.
Just about every night we see someone killed from texting and driving on the news. My friend was ran off the road the other day on his motorcycle by a guy on the cell phone. He was not hurt , thank God. But more people are getting killed from cell phone use on the road than drinking and driving. It is about time that every state ban cell phone use on the road and make the fines and jail time the same as DUI.
If you want to solve the problem, here's how it could be done immediately. Offer a bounty on videos evidence of drivers talking on their cell while driving. You must capture them on their phone (in a moving vehicle), get a decent image of the driver and vehicle (including license plate as well as the location (street signs, etc) where the violation occured and date and time. The driver is issued a ticket in the mail and for every video a bounty of $100. is paid to the person providing the video. People working full time could earn thousands every day this way. Within a two week period everyone would be afraid to pick up their phone in the car for fear of being recorded and fined. people would still be able to find a few people talking on their phones and the revenue stream would continue.
Last edited by Where's Bruce?; 05-16-2012 at 06:06 AM.
Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
The U.S. city with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, Washington, D.C., has the highest murder rate at 24 per 100,000. The state with the most unrestrictive gun regulations, Vermont, has the lowest murder rate at 0.48 per 100,000.
I say that they need to kick up the penalty. If just driving- 1st offense 1000$ fine, 2nd offense confiscation of vehicle and fine 1000$, 3rd offense confiscation of vehicle 1000$ fine and felony. If you cause an accident in which someone dies- negligent homicide minimum. If you cause an accident in which someone was hurt - attempted manslaughter.
Oh yeah. It would be much safer having people videoing people talking or texting on the CP than talking or texting on a CP. Give me a break !!! And, I suppose you are going to use your CP to take the videos, right?Originally Posted by Where's Bruce?
Last edited by 700x4me; 05-16-2012 at 10:10 AM.
Gun control means hitting what you shoot at!
Will I be paid a $100 bounty for videoing some yahoo who's trying to drive and video a cell phone user at the same time?
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I can't talk on the Cell phone in OR or WA when I drive it is the law.
I can tell you that I am more distracted by chewing tobacco, radio, and eating while driving. I am a more dangerous driver when I'm trying to read a map and drive. I am a more dangerous driver when I read the news paper and drive yet nobody tries to outlaw these things.
we don't need more laws.
we need more common sense.
We all want cell phones outlawed while driving but how is it any different than an abortion?
What happened to the pro choice crowd?
A mother can choose to abort a baby but can't choose to talk on a non-hands free cell phone?
GreatNow we have to outlaw fat people too.
Damn it. Now I'm breaking the law because I'm fat.
But officer, I was using my video app on my cell phone to video the guy next to me talking on his cell phone who was calling the cops on the guy next to him for texting on his cell phone because he was reporting to the cops about the guy next to him who is drunk driving.
Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you. -- Gen.9:3
Geezzzzzzz, I'm glad I'm one of the few who are exempt
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Society in any state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil. T. Paine
I am old enough to remember when this really was the land of the free. CS
If new cars are made so the cell phone is disabled unless using blue tooth and absolutely no texting, problem solved in 30-40 years. Probably more problems with women farding that chatting.
because we all know that ALL cars are only used on public roads.
There should be no restrictions on cell phones.
There should be no restrictions on automobiles.
We don't need more laws. Some of you guys need to get out of Californiastan and grow up and don't have the government baby sitting you.
I know not everyone is from CA.
Not everyone in CA has this problem of being sheeple.
OK guys you seem to think it is just fine for people to flap their jaws while driving and not to pay attention to the road and those they share it with.... I hate to say this; if one of your family members is maimed or killed by this arrogant and selfish behavior, don't complain about it afterwards either. Driving 2,000 lbs of steel is something you need to pay attention to. Personally I am damned tired of having to slam on the brakes an used evasive actions to avoid getting hit by these idiots. The world went around just fine before cellphones and yes I own and use a cellphone. But I also have put a few people in body-bags over the years because of these idiots so I am biased.
Yet driving a car on the telephone is more dangerous than driving a semi-truck weight 105,500lbs talking on the citizens band radio (CB)?
CA Karen; You are more than welcome to not talk on the phone while you drive, don't make the rest of us do it by punishment of imprisonment. I guess if you were really that concerned about lives, you would be wanting to ban automobiles all together. Wouldn't that save lives?
I wasn't envisioning someone driving and videoing at the same time, it would be a pilot/co-pilot kinda thing...or a fixed 4 camera (front-right-left-rear facing) system. Wouldn't do much good to have people using their cells to catch people using their cell phones. LOL
And yes, we have too many laws. But I am tired of people texting while driving and forcing me to take risky action to avoid being struck cuz their eyes aren't on the road.
Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
The U.S. city with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, Washington, D.C., has the highest murder rate at 24 per 100,000. The state with the most unrestrictive gun regulations, Vermont, has the lowest murder rate at 0.48 per 100,000.
Duckkillerclyde, The hole point is to make the penalty stiff enough so people won't. By the way what happened to all the people who have been killed by people texting and talking on cellphones rights? let alone those who have been injured???? Laws are created because people insist on being stupid. Personal responsibility has gone out the window. P.S. driving is a privilege not a right.
This is not a new issue. We had the same thing going on back in colonial days. Old King George passed a law saying you couldn't drive your wagon while reading. Tom Paine and Ben Franklin thought the law was made to prevent folks from reading the Old Farmers Almanac and Common Sense. King Gerorge said it had nothing to do with politics or giving government more control, it was about saving lives of all people being killed by distracted drivers.
Old Pat Henry heard about the flap and said he opposed King George's intrussion into liberty. In fact Patrick Henry in opposition to the law said "Give me liberty and give me death". Ben Franklin heard the speech, but as he was a little drunk at the time, when he ran the story changed the quote to "or" instead of "and".
Old CS ain't saying it is a good thing to text and drive; but is it the government's responsiblity to stop it???????????
Society in any state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil. T. Paine
I am old enough to remember when this really was the land of the free. CS
Please show me where I said driving was a right.
What about the people injured due to drives on phones? What about the people injured from regular automobile accidents? Why stop at banning the telephone? Why not ban automobiles all together. That would save a lot of lives right there. In order to save lives we should also outlaw all food deemed 'unhealthy'. It should be law to require exercise for all people who are overweight (that would include myself and by looking at your photo, you too) That would save lives too. Obesity is linked to strokes and heart disease. We should also outlaw unprotected sex. Unprotected sex spreads STD's like HIV and hepatitis. HIV leads to AIDS, which, will kill you. Hepatitis attacks your liver and kills you. We should also outlaw swimming since a lot of people die or get injured swimming.
Think of the lives we will save and injuries we can prevent with these new laws. Who cares if it infringes on people's lives? It's for their own good.
EXACTLY
Let's let people drive drunk too. It's black and white right.
Dude, you are quite abrasive.
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You can use a hands free bluetooth. You can talk to people in the car while you drive. You can drive with one arm if that is all you have. I can talk on the phone while eating a sandwich and still drive better than half the fools here in Ca just because I have more sense than half those tailgaiting brain dead idiots. Just because someone is talking on the phone does not mean that is what caused the accident. If 25% of the people driving are talking on the phone, 50% of the accidents will probably involve someone on a phone. Texting and reading texts is just plain stupid, but talking on a phone while driving does nothing to make me less safe. Pretty soon they will want to outlaw radios, eating, drinking, books on tape etc. I have seen as many stupid people sitting at a green light, not paying attention etc. as anyone. Those same people do the same thing when they are just talking to people in their car. If YOU can not talk on the phone and drive safe, DON"T DO IT. I can. There are a lot of people that are horrible drivers and they are out there everyday. The cell phone law BLOWS!
Drive drunk? No.
Drink and drive as in open container? Yes.
Abrasive? I like to call it honest.
There is no law against me using a laptop and a chat forum while driving. That seems worse than a cell phone....
Even if we got everyone to go hands free there would still be tons of accidents. This is because its nit the cell phone but the conversation that's the problem. I as a truck driver have had more close calls trying to find or get me hands free device then just being able to talk on my phone. If you're texting, Facebooking, our browsing the Web while driving then you my friend are a dumbA**
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I don't know about other states but in Oh open container encludes soda and food. But it is only enforced with alcohol.
Actually there is. The texting law states "any electronic device" which would cover your laptop.
23123.5. (a) A person shall not drive a motor vehicle while using
an electronic wireless communications device to write, send, or read a text-based communication. (b) As used in this section "write, send, or read a text-based communication" means using an electronic wireless communications device to manually communicate with any person using a text-based communication, including, but not limited to, communications referred to as a text message, instant message, or electronic mail.
Last edited by Caninelaw; 05-18-2012 at 07:17 AM.
Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you. -- Gen.9:3
In OR it is called a mobile communication device. Which would include a laptop, but not a desk top. If it permanent mount it is no longer mobile. That is why CB radios are legal because they are permanent mount.
*THIS IS OREGON. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER STATES.
How did we ever get along without cellphones?? Propelling a 2 or 3 thousand pound weapon down a street/highway and only paying attention 50% of the time? Makes perfect sense to me...NOT! From reading the posts, it's pretty easy to tell who doesn't give a damn about other people. Yeah it's another law, but from what I see on the road, it's ignored anyway. SOME laws make perfect sense and this is one of them.
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You're absolutely correct. I care about myself more than anyone else.
Does this mean I want to endanger others? No.
Does this mean I purposefully break the law? No.
Does this mean I want everyone to stay out of my business and I want to stay out of their business? Yes.
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