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    Default Youch! What did I do to myself? Archery Injury

    I began shooting my new 3D target several times a day (anywhere from 5-25 arrows per) because shooting the deer was so much more fun than my block targets (pattern tightened up immensely) but after a week of steady shooting I could barely hold a cup of coffee because my right elbow (pulling arm) has a serious pain in it. It hasn't eased up since either, even though I have refrained from shooting. Is this a common injury? Never had anything like it before. What the hell did I do to myself? Hate to see a doctor over something so slight that will probably heal itself over time. Anyone experienced this?
    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

    The U.S. city with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, Washington, D.C., has the highest murder rate at 24 per 100,000. The state with the most unrestrictive gun regulations, Vermont, has the lowest murder rate at 0.48 per 100,000.


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    Where you shooting fingers or release?

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    Some Bengay and Motrin will help.

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    Release, 65lb draw.
    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

    The U.S. city with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, Washington, D.C., has the highest murder rate at 24 per 100,000. The state with the most unrestrictive gun regulations, Vermont, has the lowest murder rate at 0.48 per 100,000.


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    Hmm maybe its just stress or just sore from using t more often then before

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    Could be one of two things. Tennis elbow or just normal muscle damage(common with working out muscles that you dont normally use under stress). This is or was normal when i would shoot as often as that. Your body goes through what i call "tear and repair" when working out. Felt it in my shoulder as well. then it went away after my body got used to it.
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    Someone advised me of this:

    You my friend have tendonitis, and it is a very difficult injury to treat and takes a long time to recover. Also known as tennis elbow. I first got it lifting weights and got to the point where I could not pick up a gallon of milk. It is a result of inflammation and treatment should be cold packs never heat. You can take anti-inflammatory drugs like aspirin, not Tylenol which does not have anti inflammatory properties, ice and rest.
    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

    The U.S. city with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, Washington, D.C., has the highest murder rate at 24 per 100,000. The state with the most unrestrictive gun regulations, Vermont, has the lowest murder rate at 0.48 per 100,000.


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    I did something similar with my right shoulder. It didn't hurt to draw but later in the afternoon and next morning it would hurt to lift it. Still didn't hurt to shoot but I decided to lay off a while and turn down the draw pull. Finally, when the pain wouldn't quit I simply put my bow up. Now no shoulder pain and I think I will go back to shooting. But I left it put away for a while.

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    NSAID's ( ibuprofen ) and ice (15-20 minutes) on/off for an hour .. lather, rinse, repeat.
    Some people would advise a compression sleeve. I would not. You are mature enough to regulate your own level of activity.
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    Sounds like tendonitis (Tennis elbow).

    Most prescribe the RICE treatment: Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation

    If your groups are good, sounds like your form is OK. Most likely your body is adjusting to the repetitive motion.

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    It is easing up everyday that I refrain from shooting but I really don't wanna back off my bow below 65lbs because I'm shooting so well with it. At the same time, I don't wanna believe I'm so old that I can't shoot a few dozen arrows a day without injury. Arrggg...guess I'll continue to lay off for another week or so and then start shooting five arrows at a time instead 15. Maybe that will suffice. Thanks gents...appreciate all the advice.
    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

    The U.S. city with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, Washington, D.C., has the highest murder rate at 24 per 100,000. The state with the most unrestrictive gun regulations, Vermont, has the lowest murder rate at 0.48 per 100,000.


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    It sounds like u overstressed your arm from the excessive shooting at 65#,s. I wouldn't shoot for a week , then turn down your poundage by 7 or 10 pounds and just shoot a few shots at a time. Slowly build your poundage up agian to where u like.
    At least u still can shoot without major down time and without pian or strian.

    One thing for sure when it comes to bow draw weight and drawing a bow u should be able to draw a bow striaght back with no strian and be able to hold at fulldraw for at east 5 seconds with no strain or shakiness and shoot smoothly, if not your draw weight to high. Hope this helps.....from shot Dr.TRA...l.o.l.

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    Do you really need to shoot every day, Bruce?

    I go once a week and I'm actually improving....
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    This is the perfect excuse to go out and buy another bow but get a lefty. You may also want to take a look at your form when pulling back as it may be a little off causing most of the strain to fall on your elbow.

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    I have done so more reserch for u Bruce and I discovered that u posibillity have O.C.D. and A.S.D.
    O.C.S.D. - Obsessive Compound Shooting Disorder
    A.A.S.D. - Addictive Arrow Shooting Disorder
    These can cause what's known as Archeritas (Arch-er-itas): excessive arm strain pain cuased by repetitive bow and arrow shooting.

    Good news is there is some web sites with info to help u.....tra
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    Quote Originally Posted by palladin View Post
    Do you really need to shoot every day, Bruce?

    I go once a week and I'm actually improving....
    I went 10 days w/o shooting (bow restrung) and did this:

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    Five days later after regular practice:

    IMGP3838.jpg

    Yeah, I need daily practice. Need to build muscle memory and lock in my form.
    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

    The U.S. city with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, Washington, D.C., has the highest murder rate at 24 per 100,000. The state with the most unrestrictive gun regulations, Vermont, has the lowest murder rate at 0.48 per 100,000.


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    Ice as mentioned above also stretching especially before and after shooting

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    i'm willing to bet its because of bad form / to heavy of draw weight.

    but what do i know i olny shoot 1000 arrows a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Where's Bruce? View Post
    I went 10 days w/o shooting (bow restrung) and did this:

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    Five days later after regular practice:

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    Yeah, I need daily practice. Need to build muscle memory and lock in my form.
    hmm...yeah, I guess you do need to practice a lot. Maybe that's the advantage I have in that
    I already have a consistent form.

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    OK I know what you are experiencing the and the cause is...


    1st is OLD AGE.......

    The 2nd is a new type of disease that seams to be affecting society its called "pussyidis" lol, had to say it.
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    Actually Gents, JB229 has it right, start shooting LEFTY. The tendonitis is localized swelling in the tendons, easing off and allowing that swelling to reduce is the key. However, I taught soccer to kids for 20 years and anytime I got a kid who couldn't kick right (based on technique or injury), I would teach them to kick left footed, in fact only letting them kick left footed for a time. It did two things, 1) taught them to kick with their left foot, 2) taught them the proper technique, which they then carried back to their right foot once they went back. This worked 100% of the time, and I've found it to work with most other things.

    Good luck, and nice grouping photo after 5 days, whta was your distance?

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    Being serious now,
    Actually the best thing to treat it is rubbing on some Vagisil.......
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    For real now, I would say lower your poundage to mid 50's. My Dad had the something happening to him and when we turned his bow down to about 53lbs and now his shoulder is not hurting anymore. I did the same to my bow I turned it down from 70 to about 64 and I have noticed I don't have shoulder strain and I am getting better groups and can hold at full draw longer. Also look at shortening your draw length a little bit my Dad also did this he went from a 29 1/2" to a 28 1/2". He drills them like no tomorrow now and with zero pain. But it could be that vagasil he rubbed in, just kidding. Hope that helps seemed to help with 2 instances that I personally know of so good luck. Kurt
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