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    Tell if you think there is something wrong with the first 30 second of this video.

    http://youtu.be/wshirGMHnKk
    I hope this is not it California.

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    As I recall, on private land behind closed gates you can shoot from a vehicle in CA. Been discussed a few times here. The one thing I WOULDN'T do is handle ground squirrels who carry fleas with bubonic plague in many areas.
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    § 251. Prohibition on Pursuing or Shooting Birds and Mammals from Motor-Driven Air or Land Vehicles, Motorboats, Airboats, Sailboats or Snowmobiles.


    (a) General Prohibition: No person shall pursue, drive, herd, or take any bird or mammal from any type of motor-driven air or land vehicles, motorboat, airboat, sailboat, or snowmobile. Additionally, no person shall use any motorized, hot-air, or unpowered aircraft or other device capable of flight or any earth orbiting imaging device to locate or assist in locating big game mammals beginning 48 hours before and continuing until 48 hours after any big game hunting season in the same area. No person shall use at any time or place, without Department approval, any computer, telemetry device or other equipment to locate a big game mammal to which a tracking device is attached. For purposes of this subsection "use" includes but is not limited to personal use or intent by another to obtain information from such personal use. Evidence of an act constituting a violation of this section includes but is not limited to flying slowly at low attitudes, hovering, circling or repeatedly flying over any area where big game may be found. Exceptions to this subsection are:

    (1) When the motor of such motorboat, airboat, or sailboat has been shut off and/or the sails furled and its progress therefrom has ceased, and it is drifting, beached, moored, resting at anchor, or is being propelled by paddle, oar or pole.


    (2) When used by the landowner or tenant of private property to drive or herd game mammals for the purpose of preventing damage to private property.


    (3) Pursuant to a license from the department issued under such regulations as the commission may prescribe (see subsection 251(b) below).
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    Quote Originally Posted by spectr17 View Post
    As I recall, on private land behind closed gates you can shoot from a vehicle in CA. Been discussed a few times here.
    ALL hunting/fishing regulations apply whether on Private or Public land.

    I agree on handling those ground squirrels. And that is the most ass-backwards way of skinning/gutting a rabbit I have ever seen.
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    I'm remembering a thread from a couple years back about shooting ground squirrels from vehicles. May have been a depredation hunt. The ranchers were saying it was legal IIRC. Sorry about the confusion
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    Eric's post (#3 above) regarding section 251 (taking animals from motorized vehicles) applies to both public and private land. The confusion comes in regarding loaded guns. Long guns cannot be loaded (per the F&G laws, loaded means any long gun with an unfired round in the chamber) on public land but long guns can have an unfired round in the chamber on private lands. Granted, it's not a wise practice to be beboppin' around on a bumpy ranch road with a round in the chamber but it is legal. Private lands that charge a fee (such as Tejon Ranch, etc.) are considered "accessible to the public" and are treated as public lands when it comes to load firearms.
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    There's a WHOLE bunch of stuff wrong with this video. Aside from the big 'shooting from a vehicle' issue, and the 'odd' technique for disemboweling that hapless jack, there is the issue of no gloves on the knife-wielding huntress. I guess she has never heard of tularemia. It is prevalent in wild rabbits, and is mot likely transmitted to humans when skinning infected bunnies. Fleas and ticks can transmit too. Watch out handling those bunnies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtbag View Post
    There's a WHOLE bunch of stuff wrong with this video. Aside from the big 'shooting from a vehicle' issue, and the 'odd' technique for disemboweling that hapless jack, there is the issue of no gloves on the knife-wielding huntress. I guess she has never heard of tularemia. It is prevalent in wild rabbits, and is mot likely transmitted to humans when skinning infected bunnies. Fleas and ticks can transmit too. Watch out handling those bunnies.
    how do you know if they are infected?

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    Yeah, I would say someone needs a ticket. And handling ground grizzlies? No thanks- can you say bubonic plague? I thought you could.

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    how do you know if they are infected?
    If the liver looks spotted like this:

    tularemia_liver_damage_beaver.jpg

    Of course you'd have to well into the animal to find that out. Which is why lots of gloves are standard gear for ♦me.
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    Thanks for the pic Orygun. I will defenatly keep an eye out for that.

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    A casual tour through some of that poster's other you tube vids found that they were in Placer County in and around Forresthill. Which is somewhere in the not-so-golden state.
    Judge Gideon J. Tucker, wrote in a 1866 ruling that "No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session."

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    absolutely nothing wrong with it. shooting from a vehicle is fine as long as the engine and all forward motion is stopped. (Oregon)

    but the above post says it is California

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    jack rabbits are protected in CA? We can kill as many as we can find and shoot them at night with spotlights while driving and drinking and use a machine gun. (private property) get rid of the drinking and driving and shooting from the road and the rest is legal on public ground. Jack rabbits are not protected in Oregon.

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    Clyde, jacks are year round and no limit in Cal. Cottontails are game animals there. Some do give the jacks a bit of a break in the spring when the there are lots of babies being born. With all the development the jack habitat for most of JHO guys to hunt is mostly desert. And the numbers there even at their best are nothing like what we can see in our deserts here. I have hit population spikes in the eastern sierra sage areas where the jacks were thick. Like you walk 1/4 mile and jump over 50 of them. But that habitat is Great Basin like we have. In the creosote of the Mojave desert they just don't get like that
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