Has anyone hunted Cedar Canyon?

[leftyhunter]

I checked out Ceder Canyons website and it seems like a good deal being that its close by in Teachappi which beats Monterrey County if you live in Socal. The hogs seem big enough. Is this a fair chase hunt meaning (I know that this is a controversial subject) that while the property may be fenced the critters can come and go has they please on or off the property vs say Big Horn Ranch and other similar operations? CC ffers bird hunting i was wondering were these caged or wild birds?

Thanks;
Leftyhunter

[richw]

these are all wild hogs there pure russian boars it nothing like big horn ranch and they do have some large pigs there

[spectr17]

that while the property may be fenced the critters can come and go has they please on or off the property vs say Big Horn Ranch and other similar operations?

High fence means just that, high fence to keep them in. No owner would want his game walking off after paying to bring them in. The hogs in high fence don't wander on and off the property.

[leftyhunter]

Thanks for the speedy replies. What I am trying to clarify is CC like any other fair chase ranch (other then having pure strain wild boars) where yes it has fences to keep the cattle in but the pigs and other wild game can come and go has they please i.e such has the neighboring WU ranch's or are the pigs held in a high fenced closure? While $600 is not an unreasonable amount to hunt a large boar I have never hunted nor want to hunt on a high fenced property. I am not saying anything derogatory for those who hunt at Big Horn or similar operations its just not my cup of tea.

Thanks Again;
Leftyhunter

[spectr17]

High fence = high fence Leonard. We're not talking 3 or 5 wire barbed wire cattle fence, we're talking a high fence and/or electric wire to KEEP the hogs or whatever INSIDE. There is no walking back and forth for the game on the fenced in area to outside land. I can't explain it any better. Cedar Canyon is not like Big Horn IMHO.

[Band Collector]

Have hunted it several times. Alot harder than you would think. Hogs get educated pretty quick. I have walked the fence line and there are as many hog prints outside the fence as are inside from local resident hogs trying to get to the hot sows. Once saw a mountain lion stalking two bowhunters inside the fence from a ridge while glassing. They never knew they were being hunted while they were hunting. Deer jump the fence and get in all the time.

Good looking animals that were originally raised in Canada. Breeding has created several new generations within the ranch.

Here are few pics I took while there...

[larrysogla]

Those are hairy, European wild boars..............with the distinctive humpback and long snout. Beautiful looking wild beasts............do they taste as good as the hybrid wild hogs found in the national forests and ranches of California(versus these Canadian origin European breedstock wild hogs in Cedar Canyon Ranch)???
Thanks for posting the testimony and the wunnerful pictures.
'Nuff said
larrysogla

[sidepass]

Whats the acreage of the ranch? Enough acreage and a high fence operation can offer a challenging hunt.

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[larrysogla]

I believe it is 600+ acres(1 square mile is approximately 640 acres???).
'Nuff said
larrysogla

[ltdann]

Some of the folks that have posted on this ranch have said the terrain is like Tejon. From the pics, I'd say thats a fair assessment. 600 acres in rough terrain is alot of area to hide an animal. I've hunted Tejon for hogs and that place flat kicked my butt.

[Band Collector]

If you look closely at the pics I posted the amount of rooting that goes on there is insane. Ground looks like it has been rototilled...

[#1Predator]

Originally Posted by leftyhunter

I checked out Ceder Canyons website and it seems like a good deal being that its close by in Teachappi which beats Monterrey County if you live in Socal. The hogs seem big enough. Is this a fair chase hunt meaning (I know that this is a controversial subject) that while the property may be fenced the critters can come and go has they please on or off the property vs say Big Horn Ranch and other similar operations? CC ffers bird hunting i was wondering were these caged or wild birds?

Thanks;
Leftyhunter

Just got back from a hunting trip, sorry about the delayed post. Cedar Canyon has a fence line in common with the Tejon Ranch. Hogs on the Tejon were originally released (illegally) on the Cummings Ranch by a guide from the King City area working on the Cummings Ranch (now under Wilderness Unlimited management). This occurred in 1988. In 1990, lightning stuck Cummings Mountain and set the Cummings Ranch on fire. The fire department punched four access holes through the ranch fence to make fire breaks and to get equipment & crews to the fire. Once the fire was out, the ranch manager was advised of the holes but before he could patch the fence several sounders of hogs had scattered to the four winds, which included the Tejon Ranch as well as Cedar Canyon Ranch. Tejon, with its water supply, huge acorn, wild oat and barley crop, was literally "hog heaven". By 1992, "shoot on sight" orders were given to ranch employees in order to illuminate the "pig problem". Tejon was even thinking of suing Cumming Ranch for "ruining" their grazing land. The "problem" was turned into an opportunity when it was learned that people would pay to hunt pigs. An "accidental" win-win situation for Tejon and Cedar Canyon Ranch (Cedar Cyn. has since upped the ante with their "European" boar hunting operation). Just a little local history and color.

[boarhunter67]

I've spoken to someone who works there and to several people who hunt there and they've consistently told me the hunting is really good right after the truck from Canada drops off a load of hogs, but after a couple of weeks of hunting the pigs have dwindled some from hunts and others have smartened up, which makes the hunting more challenging until the next load. The owner tries to arrange hunts for disabled hunters and bow hunters closer to the time the hogs are dropped off. By the time the next load is scheduled, there are still hogs, but not many and they're hard to find. That's what I was told anyway.

[Band Collector]

It was strange hunting hogs with different colored plastic ear tags. Each load has a different color tag. Like livestock, these hogs are raised domestically in Canada and as such no hunting license or pig tags are required. Atleast that was the way it was when I was there last.

Also had a barbados sheep walk in on me so I arrowed that thing too...

[boarhunter67]

When I talked to the guy, he said they didn't have sheep anymore because the coyotes kept getting them. I gotta say though, that anytime no license is required makes me feel like it is less hunting than shooting. Just my opinion.

[Band Collector]

Here is a few more hog pics from Cedar Canyon that I took while there hunting...

[sidepass]

Originally Posted by boarhunter67

I've spoken to someone who works there and to several people who hunt there and they've consistently told me the hunting is really good right after the truck from Canada drops off a load of hogs, but after a couple of weeks of hunting the pigs have dwindled some from hunts and others have smartened up, which makes the hunting more challenging until the next load. The owner tries to arrange hunts for disabled hunters and bow hunters closer to the time the hogs are dropped off. By the time the next load is scheduled, there are still hogs, but not many and they're hard to find. That's what I was told anyway.

Based on this info I would not be interested in hunting this ranch. Target shooting livestock doesn't interest me. But to each their own.

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[Raully]

Tags on the ear. Not cool.

[spectr17]

Target shooting livestock doesn't interest me. But to each their own.

Since you've never been there how can you make that statement? Kind of like when I hear people tsk tsk bear hunters who use hounds. I used to think the same thing. Chasing pigs all over them steep hills changed my mind. It's legal and a good way to teach a new hunter. Once you get your azz drug all over the mtn behind those hounds you'll change your opinion real fast.

Tags on the ear. Not cool.

Really, so someone shooting over a legal bait pile in WI is cooler? Our farm in MO has corn fields and it's a slam dunk to sit in a treestand and whack them as they come in for the corn on the same trails every morning and night. I took Dave back to our farm and he shot a doe anda button buck the first day. Wanna know what was more of a challenging hunt to me? It wasn't our farm with the corn.

[Raully]

Jesse I know all about hunting High fence. I've hunted Hogs wild numerous times. I've had people make the normal comments about the fence until I took them there. Its no easy hunt by any means. The hogs are not imported they are wild and trapped. Then released and some are breed in the archery only area.The terrain is very steep and brushy. Lots of places for them to hide. Ive been skunked and my *ss handed to me on several trips. Its fenced, archery only, but come on bred and ears tagged is a little to much. I never said some one shooting over legal bait is cooler. Thats a whole different argument and not my cup of tea, but to each his own. I'm sorry but I've hunted public land most of my life. Some of the nasties terrain you could of think of in several Cali zones. I have no opportunity to hunt over crops or private property. If you can watch, grow, and name an animal like they do on them shows on TV...then to me its like hunting a pet in your back yard. Again not my cup of tea, but to each his own. I'd love to take Mr. Waddel or Bill Jordan on a public land hunt here in Cali. Bucks of Tecamote is another show thats ridiculous were they raise deer, name them, and then shoot them out of a tower. To me its no different than me raising some goats in my backyard and then making tacos out of them when the season start. To each his own, but tags on the ear are for cattle.

[Common Sense]

Don't know enough about this subject to give an educated comment. But I do know that Cedar Canyon has advertisments on this forum, and I thank them for that. If I didn't care for their type of hunting, I wouldn't mention it on this forum cause that would be using their money to trash them.

[larrysogla]

Again...............many opinions.................but the diversity of opportunities to take an animal(hog, sheep, goats, deer, elk, bear, bison, coyote, other varmints, birds, fowl etc. etc.) is what sustains widespread interest in hunting. As always.........different folks different strokes. If we had only wild land hunting to offer and no private ranches, no low fence, no high fence, no farm bred game stock, no pen raised pheasant, no pen raised quail, no stationary bison that can be approached to 50 yds. and literally so close you could put a bullet in the eyeball, no baited bears, no baited deer, no baited hogs etc. etc............then our hunting ranks will be thinner and our strength in this democratic society relies on strength of numbers. We would be the poorer and weaker if we did not have these "hunting alternatives". Lots of people would not be in hunting if we did not offer pen raised pheasants, pen raised quail, baited bear, baited deer, baited hogs etc. etc. I myself would not be in hunting if it were not for "shooting fish in the barrel".........literally.
'Nuff said
larrysogla

[Band Collector]

I certainly did not mean to put down Cedar Canyon's operation with my posts. That was not my intention. I have hunted the ranch twice and both times found the hunt challenging. Like I said, not as easy as one might think.

As far as the ear tags, these hogs (pure bred Russians) are raised in Canada. To cross our border not only do they have to have ear tags but are also vaccinated to prevent any diseases from entering our country. Perhaps the tags could be removed once they get to the ranch but quite frankly it did not bother me when I came to full draw.

I have killed plenty of free roaming feral hogs in the Paso Robles area. I was fortunate in that I had access to many private ranches but not everyone does. For someone considering getting into the sport a ranch like Cedar Canyon gives them that opportunity without a license or tag. Does that mean that everyone harvests a hog? Not hardly, but that is not what we are out there for. It is the thrill of the chase that keeps us coming back...

[larrysogla]

Band Collector,
Those are big bruisers you have in those pictures. Man!.......those are nice looking heavies you got posted. Thanks for the testimony and the very interesting pictures you post.
God Bless, always
'Nuff said
larrysogla

[Raully]

I have no problem hunting high fence. I guess what I mean it just seems a little wierd for me personal to shoot a hog that was imported with tags on the ear. If it means they have to go through some type of quarantine and the tags are purely labels then ok. Maybe they should remove them first before they are released.