Video from Bighorn Ranch - Page 2

DirtyDave · #31 (**permalink**) 10-04-2009, 09:42 AM

Thanks EPT, I think I will give it a try. I will be using a 12ga wiith slugs, so I am more of a spot-n-stalk kinda guy. I figured there had to be some "real" wild hogs that would be more of a challenge.

rusman66 · #32 (**permalink**) 10-08-2009, 03:07 PM

Not everyone has a Dad or uncle or mentor to show them how to do it right... I give the guy props for going out and doing it. Maybe someone will see this and give him some pointers. The Sad pig hanging around was a sad fact of hunting that is not often seen, take it or leave it. That dazed walk around after the shot would make me nervous. I hope he was just dealing with a little sadness after the shot.

sancho · #33 (**permalink**) 10-09-2009, 09:54 AM

i have hunted some nasty texas ranches. tree stands overlooking corn flingers. on these particular ranches, the foilage is think and absolutely un-huntable. you cannot penetrate the plantlife. bringing the pigs out with corn appears to be the only option. it wasnt easy. we still only had a 30% success rate.

i havent seen the above video. my work computer filtered it out.

Cal hunter · #34 (**permalink**) 10-10-2009, 04:49 PM

WOW! Im sorry but this should not be on this site. That was not hunting it was a slaughter video. All the crap we hunters have to put up with,with the antis and peta and this gets posted. I have have seen alot of debates on whats right and whats wrong on this site over the past few years between guys and Jesse always steps in pulls posts and warns or bans members. Jesse I dont know what you were thinking posting this but it makes us all look bad as hunters. I could care less if a guy wants to hunt that type of ranch to each is own its the video I have a problem with.

larrysogla · #35 (**permalink**) 10-11-2009, 11:49 AM

I guess that video is already in circulation in the internet prior to being put here at JHO. So.........any dilemma for preserving our hunter's public reputation is moot.
'Nuff said
larrysogla

sancho · #36 (**permalink**) 10-11-2009, 07:14 PM

nuff said?

i finally checked out the video. i shouldnt have. that was absolutely lame in every aspect. the man sucked at shooting. the lady sucked with a video camera. was she resting it on his head? wtf? the pig looked domestic, and the second pig didnt even run away.
i have shot a captured hog before. lady friend trapped and raised 4 of them. we put them in a dog kennel, and put a bullet in between their eyes while they were eating apples. the pork was delicious.

how far of a shot do you think this pig was? the sound of the screaming pig was pretty clear. less than 100 yards? with a rifle, i consider that shot a chip shot. this is a black eye for hunters.

Cal hunter · #37 (**permalink**) 10-11-2009, 07:31 PM

What difference does it make that it has already hit the net? Just because its on the net doesnt mean it needs to be on this site.

dglover · #38 (**permalink**) 10-12-2009, 05:27 PM

Every time that I see the posts by people that state this or that gives hunters a bad name I just shake my head.

First off I have had the luxury of seeing quite a few shots made and they are not always perfect. That is the reality of hunting things happen.

For those of you that are always one shot one kill. I have a hard time believing this.

As for the calls to remove this or any other video from the site due to damage to hunters.

Invest some time into reading the posts here and you will see more damage done to hunters here then the antis could ever dream of.

These posts don't go away. Google idiot hunters or something similar and you will see what I mean.

I never knew that hunting belonged to the elite until I started reading around here.

The elitist attitude runs rampant.

I see all kinds of posts about idiots, stupid people, unethical hunters, morons, etc. etc.

I just don't run into these types of hunters for the most part.

I think the antis are much more accepting of other antis then hunters are of other hunters around here.

Spend some time behind a shotgun hunting birds and all of the one shot one kill wonders become pretty quite and humbled.

Is the shot perfect? No.

But what I wouldn't give to be there when some of the elite make an imperfect shot.

There are many variables that come into play with every shot.

If you like your sport it just might a good idea to be more accepting of others and their skill levels.

I have never seen anybody start anything as an expert. It takes trail and error to get there.

We need members for our dying sport.

If we don't get them you will have all the time you ever wanted to debate bad shots sitting on your couch watching old hunting videos from the days when hunting was legal.

Maybe someday all hunters will be worthy of your support for the sport and not just the perfect scenarios you always see on T.V.

m57jager · #39 (**permalink**) 10-12-2009, 09:00 PM

Nicely put!

Cal hunter · #40 (**permalink**) 10-13-2009, 01:46 AM

I dont see where anyone said they never make a bad shot? I do bird hunt and I do make bad shots but i dont video tape it and post it on web sites. Your entitled to your opinion and so am I. As far as the reading on this site goes your right there is way to much bickering and arguing and not enough sharing of useful info like in the years past which is why I dont post much on here anymore.

sancho · #41 (**permalink**) 10-13-2009, 10:10 AM

there is some great footage of some fantastic hunts in exotic, and non exotic places. videos that make me want to start a separate savings account to save and save. videos that make me immediately google the outfitter or ranch to suss it out. videos that inspire me.

this isnt one of them.

jtatarin · #42 (**permalink**) 10-26-2009, 05:11 PM

"holy shit edwin" ahahahahaha

switch · #43 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 10:12 AM

What was the end result of Edwin's hunt? Anyone? Yep, a dead animal. As hunters, we all end at the same stop...standing over a dead animal. We need to be thankful that, for now, we are still able to do this legally.

I, for one would never sign up at the ranch and hunt there, but I certainly wouldn't slight Edwin and his mom for hunting there...in the truest sense of the phrase, to each his own.

Just like with coursing dogs for coyotes, hunting under a feeder or behind a high fence, baiting for bears, fox hunting with hounds, etc. It may not be everyone's idea of hunting, but the last page always reads the same.

For many of us here, the journey, the stalk, being in the wild, are the bigger parts of the hunt, and the reason we come back. Maybe Edwin was on his first hunt. The dazed and confused look, and walking off without a stitch of gear certainly tells me he didn't have much of clue, but in the end he killed an animal, just like most of here.

You know what does the most damage to the hunting community? It's other hunters bagging on newbies, poor shots, types of hunting, elitist attitudes, one type or species of hunting over the other, and generally fragmenting our sport.

Let's keep the brotherhood alive and support anyone that gets involved, whether we approve of the way they went about it or not.

Now, if we want to start ripping on the camera woman...I'm in!

jdp080563 · #44 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 08:37 PM

Very well said Switch.

skesiks22 · #45 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 08:59 AM

I'll be honest, on my first shot opportunity I missed the first two shots and dropped the hog like a load of bricks on the third. So I can't really knock this guy for his shooting (granted you shouldn't take a shot that can't kill cleanly). But for me personally...this isn't hunting. Put in the time, put in the miles, and get one on public land before you pony up for some live target practice.

ltdann · #46 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 10:25 AM

I've spent alot more money to hunt places were I damn near had a stroke trying to get onto an animal and walked away with aching legs, bruised ego and little else.

No one in my family hunts and I didn't start until I was 32. I never had the long hunting tradition to fall back on. I learned on my own and by the goodness of hunters that were willing to share their experiences with me.

I made some mistakes along the way, made some horrible shots and lost some animals. Those things still haunt me in the wee hours, sometimes. And you know, ultimately, it made me a better hunter, taught me my limitations and my strengths.

I hunt public lands, government lands and pay to play places. What they all have in common is that I'm out there hunting, and there's a chance I may get an animal.

What I see in this video is a guy that wants to hunt, is kinda unsure on what its all about and seems a bit stunned when its all over.

I see a guy that wants to hunt and can only find his mom to give him support and the only place he knows to go is this ranch. Its obvious he doesn't know what its about

I see a guy that desperately needs a mentor and those are hard to find.

I've never been to that ranch. I know where its at and what its about. It's not my first choice, but its one of them. I like the fact that ranch is there. I not getting any younger and some of the hunts are starting to hurt, alot. And quite frankly, a Dall sheep looks good on the wall whether it came from Texas or SOCAL or where ever. When the times comes to slow down, be it age, time or money, I'll hunt that ranch and be happy to able to do it.

So give Edwin and his mom a break. If you meet the guy, offer to take him out, show him so tricks, some property and get him hooked. He's obviously trying.

Farmerdoug · #47 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 04:32 PM

Alright, you all know I am not a big fan of the high fenced ranches. However, ltdann you make a damn good point and I have to give you credit for it. I think you made the right observation about this guy.

larrysogla · #48 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 04:23 PM

ltdann,
You made a very good point and it is well said. We all have to start out somewhere. I started hunting as an early teenager in my father's saltpond. We produce salt by evaporating seawater in a 1 hectare(2.4 acre) pond with a bed of clay tiles. The seawater is crystal clear and I would walk around the dried mud dike around the saltpond......shooting our bolt action .22 rifle at the Tilapia fish while they are stationary in the crystal clear water. It is literally "shooting at the fish in a barrel". However.............I enjoyed it immensely and loved it............and I got hooked into hunting that way......."shooting fish in a barrel". So here I am hooked for life on hunting............hogs and deer. I would not detract anything from a guy starting out at Big Horn Canyon shooting hogs in a closed fence scenario.............I could have been that guy if I was starting out now...........instead of shooting at "fish in a barrel" some 45 years ago.
'Nuff said
larrysogla