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I don't know if it goes by counties but here if you have a club you need a license........
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We removed Larry Hamilton's listing from our website. I hope no one got burned off that listing.
Found this one too. Any relation? Wasn't Larry the same guy scamming pheasant hunts too?
Guns & Roosters Hunting Preserve
31661 Rd. 160, Visalia, CA. 93292.
Contact: Dave Hamilton.
45 miles S of Fresno. Established 1991. 2,100 acres . Public
member. Shoots: field. Birds: quail, pheasant, chukar. Dogs available.
Packages: 1/2 Day, 2-35 guns. NAGA.
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If you've been burned by Larry you can post about it in the guide reviews here. Just state the facts so we don't have to pull it. No cussing either if you can help yourself. Grab a towel to bite if you have too.
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Guns & Roosters Hunting Preserve is a great place to go..........Daves a straight up guy...although I know you don't like hunting on clubs like this jesse , it's a great place to work your dog's and get kids into hunting and basically have a fun day out in the field ( and it's not all that easy to get the birds as you might think).....the birds are planted but you won't find anywhere that has birds as close to wild birds than this....Dave also hosts dog challenges that are alot of fun....I can't say if he's related or not to this other guy but I'll say you won't get ripped off from him........
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Yeah, good old larry...
I have crossed paths with him a long time ago, and he is exactly as has been stated, a fraud. He may have a lease or rental property, but if there is any game there, that's something different. Save your money, he will claim one thing and you will get burned...
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A guy at work told me about this club he and his buddy just joined after seeing an ad in WON. $300 a month for access to a couple ranches near Pasa Robles. That includes 2 unlimited size pigs a year and all additional pigs under 100 lbs are free.
Showed me the contract. The contact name is Hamilton.
I almost jumped on it. Whew.
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There are so many things people can do as victims like contact your district attorney fraud unit,if you mailed the checks he's using the mails to defraud contact the postal inspectors ,probably not declaring the money as income report him to IRS,State Franchise Tax Board,I'd find out where he lives and what he owns by hiring a skip tracer to locate him then take him to small claims court.If the perp has been scamming hunters for a long time he's probably moved from the misdeamnor into a full blown felony for fraud.
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What POS it sounds like we need to do a little recon and then do some tar and feathering. just throwing it out there i can get the feathers
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A person could contact San Luis Obispo DFG
Talk to Warden Todd Tognazini. He is special under cover. He might be able to help out.I know this guy Hamilton has been doing this at least 5 years, thats when my buddy got taken at the Hamilton Pheasant club in Parkfield. Tognazini runs a hunt club at George works Ranch ( go figure) which is also in Parkfield.
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Larry Hamilton has been pulling his shenannigans for over 20 years that I know of, and the way he slides around in the muddy area of quasi legal entry fees vs guiding or outfitting is what makes it so hard to throw his %$# IN JAIL... I'm sure there are others out there who do the same kind of "gray area hunting for money". There is nothing wrong with charging a tresspass fee to hunt "wild game" on private ranches, IF there is really wild game there to be had. But IMHO, if it has Larry Hamilton's name on it, steer clear...
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He also has a add in the SF Chronicle.  He burned a friend of mine too, every time my friend called to hunt Larry said the poperty was full up.Even weekdays!
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Yeah Larry Hamilton the crook,yep he screwed my dad and I 3 yr's ago,he showed us a nice club,in May 2003 for the up coming deer season,it was nice rolling hill's with oak's all over and a couple of nice lake's,done by Jolon,and when it was time to hunt it,He had said he was having problem's with the owner,and that we would be hunting another club,well guy's it was 90% brush,and the other 10% was poison oak,great deal huh.
Then I went fishing the following June 2004 with some friend's,and the had it happen to them to,and 11 of there friend's,he's been doing it for yr's,and I waiting to see him in the Obit's one day,from screwing the wrong person. Just my  Oh by the way,that is the SOB's phone #.Oh also be careful,he has a son,I believe named Jason or Jeremy.
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yeah, i got burned a couple of years ago by larry. put on on some property after waiting 10 months to hunt. it was about a 50 acre parcel and i found out later we tresspassed across private property to get there. of course larry was gone when the owner wanted to throw me and my 12 yr old son in jail. larry never returned my calls after that. i have talked to the f&g about him though
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also larry is no relation to dave hamilton at guns and roosters. dave runs a great place and i recomend it to everybody
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pretty sure i stopped and gave a guy's truck a jump from fresno. hunting on one of his pieces off interlake rd. i drive interlake rd every day .think i'll stop andchat with some of these guys and pass this info on. next time i run into tom [john] foster, local warden i'll put a bug in his ear?
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I'm gonna write the the fresno bee now. It would really hurt him to have his income taken away. I think others that have given this guy money should follow a lawsuit; for $30 or so ti would be worth seeing this guy in court.
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I just finished sending this email to the Fresno Bee -
Kurt,
My name is Tim XXXXX. I am an avid california hunter and recently picked up your newspaper the Fresno bee. There is an advertiser that is running a Fraud and scam from your newspaper. His name is Larry Hamilton. I have some firends who lost money to the guy and he took the money and disconnected all telephone numbers and means of contact without ever refunding their money (or producing what they paid for).
I have done some additional research on the guy and find others that say the same. I am also contacting the FBI because this is a Federal offense. I fully respect and read your newspaper when I am in town and I know that you would not knowingly accept advertising from fraudulent persons.
I appreciate if you would look into the matter as I am passing on this info to the FBI and local authorities with his name and advertisements. I will also be passing along the name of your publication and these contact name for yourself and Mrs Della Hemphill in the event that the authorities have any questions.
I am confident that you will look into this matter.
Sincerely,
Tim XXXXX
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There is an ad in today's Modesto Bee with the same phone number. (831-385-8283) I have seen it run a few times in the past.
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I wanted to attach his bogus brochure but its to large of a file!!!
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Hey Hog hunters I just got off the phone with "Larry" and he told me this is a hot place to hunt. He has several ranches for bow, rifle, fishing, upland game, and free camping to boot!!!! The cost is $600.00 for a membership that allows you to take the first four pig (any size) for the year. He says you can split this with a second person and the cost for each would be $300.00 each. The catch is that one person is named as the primary hunter. I had him send me a fax and the name on the caller I.D. says..."Larry Hamilton". The brochure is cheap and it ask that you make the check out to "Larry Hamilton"....I wanted to visit the ranches but he told me to call back in September when his ranch hand is back from vacation and he will have him take me out! There is a Paso Robles P.O.Box given
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Yes, be very careful when dealing with super scam artist Larry Hamilton. I've been taken twice by this guy. The first time was when he had his place in Parkfield. I went out there on a Friday afternoon and got the tour of the property from Larry. Hunted the entire property Saturday morning and didn't see a thing, not even tracks. That afternoon I went to the Parkfield Inn for some lunch and a couple of the locals were in there having lunch. When I told them where I was hunting they laughed at me and told me that Larry's operation was a joke, that there are absolutely zero pigs on his place.
So about 4 years later, he's advertising pig hunting again, this time it's out by FHL. I decide to try him again, after he buttered me up on the phone about how great the pig hunting was on this new property. So me and a buddy shell out $250 each and head out to his place to hunt (after months and months of Larry coming up with all kinds of excuses about why we couldn't come out and hunt). So his son meets us and takes us to the property, which ends up being about 50 acres with no pigs. We ended up talking with a guy that had to cross this property to reach his property and he told us he had never seen a pig on the property we were hunting in the 20 years he had lived there. So that afternoon on our way out we got ahold of Larry and he met up with us before we left. We demanded our money back, as the property was not what he described and there was no sign of pigs (no tracks, rubs, scat, etc.). He would not refund us our money but told us that we could set up another date to come back and hunt another property he had access to. We both told him to F-off and we were gone. Thank you for posting his number as I was able to leave him a message about what I thought about him and his "operation".
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I noticed he is advertising in WON too.
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Hey all just to make sure this jerk does not post in my local paper Stockton Record i warned them...
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You might send the specifics of your encounter with Larry Hamilton, to DFG
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Hey has anybody heard anything about the ranches Larry Hamilton supposedly has acess to near Fort Hunter Liggit ? Is it a joke or do any of you fellas know of anyone who has had the slightest measure of sucess with Larry Hamilton .
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Noticed you just joined up jth, welcome!! This guy is an absolute legend here at JHO, but not in a good way. There are multiple, long threads here, including this one, that would keep me from ever considering giving this guy my money. If you decide to give him a try, be sure and let us know how it worked out.
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Scammer's spammer'Virus alert what everrrrs. He will do you a good one.
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I just finished sending this email to the Fresno Bee -
Kurt,
My name is Tim XXXXX. I am an avid california hunter and recently picked up your newspaper the Fresno bee. There is an advertiser that is running a Fraud and scam from your newspaper. His name is Larry Hamilton. I have some firends who lost money to the guy and he took the money and disconnected all telephone numbers and means of contact without ever refunding their money (or producing what they paid for).
I have done some additional research on the guy and find others that say the same. I am also contacting the FBI because this is a Federal offense. I fully respect and read your newspaper when I am in town and I know that you would not knowingly accept advertising from fraudulent persons.
I appreciate if you would look into the matter as I am passing on this info to the FBI and local authorities with his name and advertisements. I will also be passing along the name of your publication and these contact name for yourself and Mrs Della Hemphill in the event that the authorities have any questions.
I am confident that you will look into this matter.
Sincerely,
Tim XXXXX[/b]
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Tim,
What ever happened from this letter and the one sent to the FBI?
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Maybe we should pin this thread and take out an Hamilton alert ad in the same papers?
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