Pics with no tags on the bucks in CA

[bucknut]

QUOTE (MikenSoCo @ Dec 26 2008, 05:27 AM)

Fill out the tag then stuff it in the ear for the pic. Attach it to the antler when when done

Is that following the rules to a 'T'? Stuffed in the ear is not 'securely attatched'.

[CAhntr]

For the record I completely agree with Jesse. If the buck is already at the truck or in the driveway it should have a tag on it.

MikenSoCo, isn't this your buck?

I see no tag. Practice what you preach.

[bpnclark]

Oh MikenSoCo, say it isn’t true.

[Litch]

Hey Mike, that looks like a Deer only smaller.
Another thing, I never want to hear again about the dink I shot in CO one year!
I promise I won't bring that picture to the Duck Club if you come up this season, just make it up there.

[MikenSoCo]

Ya that's my buck, tagged and dragged 1 1/2 mile to the truck on private property to boot. Left the tag on all the home. Stuffed tag in the ear for a pic at home. Back on the antler just after. I think Fish and Game is good with that. There Not good with guys dragging bucks with no tag, driving down the freeway with no tag, etc... I stand by what I said. I think the point is clear, fill out and tag your buck in the field.

[bucknut]

Ah Ha!!! What else you got in your bag of tricks Mike?

[MikenSoCo]

That's good Buck!! But you'll still never see me with that tag in my pocket Remember, I'm not accusing, just trying to shed some light on why Fish and Game does what they do. It's a tough job, thankless most of the time. Now if you'll give me a break here, I need to go fill my A zone tag

[bpnclark]

Come on. There is no tag in that deer’s ear.

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I also don’t think you did anything wrong either. But how can you keep talking about following the exact letter of the law and have that pic? It’s caped out in the back of your truck, and you say its stuffed in the ear? Sounds like an excuse to me.

[bucknut]

Just giving you a hard time Mike. Following the rules to a T is not always easy. Lots of examples of that have been givin here on Jesses, in this thread and others. I think completing the tag is the important thing here. I doubt a poacher would fill out the tag if they planned going back out and re-using it. If you have it filled out properly and on hand while taking the pics, I don't see a problem. I'll continue to assume most wardens are reasonable intelligent people like the one D9 ran into in Colorado. Hopefully I'll never get ticketed for it but I'll take my chances.
Good luck in A zone.

[BOWUNTR]

WOW!!! I'd expect this on other sites... but here?? Ed F

[Glass eye]

On my first ever hunt in AZ, I shot a javelina, and after taking a few pics a game warden walked up to me dressed in hunting clothes. He asked why there was no tag on it yet, I told him that I was taking pics and was about to tag it. He said that he heard the shot and that I had plenty of time to tag it. I told him that it took me a few minutes to find the pig (they blend in real good) and I hadn't gutted it or attempted to pack it out. It seemed that the more I tried to convince him that I wasn't a poacher, the more he was out to get me. This went on for about 20 minutes, finally I told him to just write the ticket and get it over with. He let me go.
When I shot my tule elk in '06 I knew that the game warden and biologist were not far away. I immediatley began to fill out my tag and my friends wanted to take pics before tagging it. I was paranoid because of what happened years earlier in AZ. My friends convinced me to relax for the pics and tag it later. The Fish & Game used the tag-less pic in their '07 Big-Game Digest.

[Flatbroke]

QUOTE (Glass eye @ Dec 30 2008, 12:57 PM)

On my first ever hunt in AZ, I shot a javelina, and after taking a few pics a game warden walked up to me dressed in hunting clothes. He asked why there was no tag on it yet, I told him that I was taking pics and was about to tag it. He said that he heard the shot and that I had plenty of time to tag it. I told him that it took me a few minutes to find the pig (they blend in real good) and I hadn't gutted it or attempted to pack it out. It seemed that the more I tried to convince him that I wasn't a poacher, the more he was out to get me. This went on for about 20 minutes, finally I told him to just write the ticket and get it over with. He let me go.
When I shot my tule elk in '06 I knew that the game warden and biologist were not far away. I immediatley began to fill out my tag and my friends wanted to take pics before tagging it. I was paranoid because of what happened years earlier in AZ. My friends convinced me to relax for the pics and tag it later. The Fish & Game used the tag-less pic in their '07 Big-Game Digest.

They are not the same, do you need to tag Javelina's in AZ?

[Glass eye]

QUOTE (Glass eye @ Dec 30 2008, 12:57 PM)

On my first ever hunt in AZ, I shot a javelina, and after taking a few pics a game warden walked up to me dressed in hunting clothes. He asked why there was no tag on it yet, I told him that I was taking pics and was about to tag it. He said that he heard the shot and that I had plenty of time to tag it. I told him that it took me a few minutes to find the pig (they blend in real good) and I hadn't gutted it or attempted to pack it out. It seemed that the more I tried to convince him that I wasn't a poacher, the more he was out to get me. This went on for about 20 minutes, finally I told him to just write the ticket and get it over with. He let me go.
When I shot my tule elk in '06 I knew that the game warden and biologist were not far away. I immediatley began to fill out my tag and my friends wanted to take pics before tagging it. I was paranoid because of what happened years earlier in AZ. My friends convinced me to relax for the pics and tag it later. The Fish & Game used the tag-less pic in their '07 Big-Game Digest.

QUOTE (Flatbroke @ Dec 30 2008, 03:00 PM)

They are not the same, do you need to tag Javelina's in AZ?

Yes, I know that a JAVELINA and a PIG are not the same. Hunters in AZ often refer to them as pigs. And YES, javelina hunting in AZ is by permit/TAG only, and must be attached immediately after killing.

[Flatbroke]

Thanks for clearing that up. I was confused to what you had shot since you told the Warden you were looking for the pig. Those Javs are ornery little critters.

[Flatbroke]

Very Nice Elk Glass Eye

[upper]

OK,You guys need to know how to tag and de-tag.Once you tag the animal,take the tag off for pictures hence de-tag.And if the warden gets Stiffy the fine for de-tagging is way cheaper..Hope this helps Upper

[couesdeer77]

QUOTE (spectr17 @ Dec 25 2008, 08:49 PM)

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Personally, I think you're being too technical.

Okay, let me know where to draw the technical line.

Member with a can of beer in one hand, a rifle in the other and a buck okay?

Someone posting pics using a dead animal they just shot as target practice with their bows for laughs?

Someone posting pics of a dead deer in a obviously closed off limits area?

Member humping a dead deer for laughs?

Member posting a pic of game not even in season or allowed?

Believe it or not the above are examples of pics we've pulled in the past.
[/quote]

Okay, where do you draw the line. Why would you not remove a picture of this clown from Texas with a picture of five pigs lying on the ground, with two of them being baby pigs. One pig might weigh only two or three pounds, the other about twelve pounds. In another pic this guy has this weird demented look on his face. This guy gives all hunters a bad name. Let's draw the line where it really needs to be drawn. Check this out, post - Sun 12/7/08 TEXAS Hunt, Evening hunt hogs, hogs, hogs, hogs, hogs http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/index....howtopic=186526

I think a deer without a tag in the field is not even close to this guys post. If a guy has a deer beside or in the back of his truck, well then I would agree.

My 2 cents
Couesdeer77

[upper]

Whu hu Coues,that was more like 57 cents.But Don't ever confuse Deer hunting with Hog Shooting.Hogs are big ground suirrels that eat good.The shizzle is they can also Kill you.....Upper

[couesdeer77]

QUOTE (upper @ Dec 30 2008, 07:19 PM)

Whu hu Coues,that was more like 57 cents.But Don't ever confuse Deer hunting with Hog Shooting.Hogs are big ground suirrels that eat good.The shizzle is they can also Kill you.....Upper

I have hunted both and I know what you are saying about pigs in certain areas of the state and country. But as I said, posting a picture like that makes us all look bad. I guarantee you people other than hunters look at this site. Would anyone on this site post a picture of a couple spotted fawns? I don't think so.

Take care
Couesdeer77

[spectr17]

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Would anyone on this site post a picture of a couple spotted fawns? I don't think so.[/b]

I would. I've even shot one young deer I slung over my back in MO. Weighed in at 41 pounds. We were hunting for meat and it was legal. I've seen others with young deer that were barely out of spots. As long as they are legal I have no problem with taking them. If it's not your cup of tea that's fine, just don't rain on someone's parade here over what you think is wrong.

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Why would you not remove a picture of this clown from Texas with a picture of five pigs lying on the ground, with two of them being baby pigs.[/b]

You may want to check yourself. The "clown" is a member here and there is NOTHING wrong with them shooting hogs that little. Especially when its in TX where they are a problem and many hunts are depredation hunts to kill every hog they can.

You seemed to have missed the "legal" part of this conversation regarding tags on deer in CA. Not tagging a deer in your truck is illegal in CA. Shooting small pigs in TX is not. Please stay on topic if you're going to post in this thread. Hijacking the thread into what you think is ethical is not the topic.

[upper]

Cous,last thing I want to see is this thread go to 4 pages,Butt spotted hogs are good,if tagged properly.I have never seen a deer fawn pictured in a harvast picture.Do you have any pictures of this?My beef is people bring this stuff up as if it is or could be common.But it seldom is.You got pictures of fawns or not,put up or tag up..........................Upper

[wmidbrook]

Operative words: slick tag

I was told by a fish and game warden in CA that the primary concern was that the person who just harvested an animal was not in possession of a "slick tag." I was told that in most cases if you fill out your tag shortly (as in minutes) after the kill, you basically avoid any problems. If you have a slick tag once you start to pack the animal out, you could be asking for problems. This policy may have changed.

In CA, I don't recall the exact regulations, but I would think one could slit a little hole behind an ear or some place similar and insert the filled out tag if dragging or packing out a buck in brushy country. I've shoved tags in cow ears and "plugged it" with a stick 'cause I forgot my zip ties before...that works too.

Is it legal in CA to shove a tag in the ear canal for pictures? or to just tag it their rather than affixed to the antlers?....it's kinda nice to give an animal an "earring tag".....sense of ownership and pride that goes with that imo given it's a common practice with livestock. It's what I do with antlerless tags....slit a hole in the ear or on a small piece of hide with evidence of sex if quartering out for a pack.

[couesdeer77]

Jesse, you were the one asking, Where do I draw the line on photos. I responded to your question, I did not high jack the thread. If you ask a question, I'm asuming you are looking for a response. I gave you my opinion like others on this thread have done. It is just my opinion, not any better or worse than others on this board. "Again, just an opinion"

You are correct I should have not called another member a clown, " My apologies to him"

Upper, you need to read the thread I compared the two as being equal. (Shooting fawns and piglets) I did not say that I saw any posting of fawns on this site.

Okay, let me know where to draw the technical line.

Member with a can of beer in one hand, a rifle in the other and a buck okay?

Someone posting pics using a dead animal they just shot as target practice with their bows for laughs?

Someone posting pics of a dead deer in a obviously closed off limits area?

Member humping a dead deer for laughs?

Member posting a pic of game not even in season or allowed?

Believe it or not the above are examples of pics we've pulled in the past.

I don't high jack a thread / post. Just responding to questions asked.

Take care
couesdeer77

[Flatbroke]

QUOTE

Personally, I think you're being too technical.

QUOTE (spectr17 @ Dec 25 2008, 08:49 PM)

Okay, let me know where to draw the technical line.

Member with a can of beer in one hand, a rifle in the other and a buck okay?

Someone posting pics using a dead animal they just shot as target practice with their bows for laughs?

Someone posting pics of a dead deer in a obviously closed off limits area?

Member humping a dead deer for laughs?

Member posting a pic of game not even in season or allowed?

Believe it or not the above are examples of pics we've pulled in the past.

QUOTE (couesdeer77 @ Dec 30 2008, 07:02 PM)

Okay, where do you draw the line. Why would you not remove a picture of this clown from Texas with a picture of five pigs lying on the ground, with two of them being baby pigs. One pig might weigh only two or three pounds, the other about twelve pounds. In another pic this guy has this weird demented look on his face. This guy gives all hunters a bad name. Let's draw the line where it really needs to be drawn. Check this out, post - Sun 12/7/08 TEXAS Hunt, Evening hunt hogs, hogs, hogs, hogs, hogs http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/index....howtopic=186526

I think a deer without a tag in the field is not even close to this guys post. If a guy has a deer beside or in the back of his truck, well then I would agree.

My 2 cents
Couesdeer77

Cousdeer77,

I am the clown you make reference to, although it may not be to your liking, nor do I care, That was a very productive hunt. The hogs are used to feed the hungry in Texas. sure larger are better but any size will to a hungry person. I do not reside in Texas but because I think feeding the hungry is such a worthy cause I donate money to support the cause, and occasionally my time too. It is not as much or as often as I would like but every bit helps. I also donate locally, in more ways than I care to mention.

What do you do with your meat? Are you only a trophy hunter?

[couesdeer77]

What do you do with your meat? Are you only a trophy hunter?

I hold out for the bigger buck but will harvest a small buck when time is running out. "I love venison" If I shoot it I eat it.
As I said in the earlier post, "My apology for the clown comment" With that said I would have taken the picture with the three larger pigs only. "My opinon"

Take care
couesdeer77

[upper]

Coues I am on a sticking point here.When something is brought up to substatiate ones opinion,and is not finished,it bothers me.Too much Crap is threw against the wall to try to make a point.No Fawns Were killed in the process of this thread nada, zip ,zero Upper

[spectr17]

Even though clowns scared the crap out of me as a kid there is no clown bashing allowed here.

[upper]

You know just to get off trak for a second.I was coming home from an elk hunt in Idaho when on the side of the road I see a clown.He was tattered and bleeding.When I asked what he heck,he replied Wolves.His car had broken down a few miles back.It was not a main road and the Wolves took him.Don't know how he made it or how he is today...........Upper

[Flatbroke]

THat was funny Upper. I think I saw him holding a sign as you enter Twin Falls just passed the Snake River. I will have to dig up a picture as it was about 21 years ago and I didnt have a digital camera at the time.

[upper]

Oh I forgot to add,when I asked the clown why the Wolf Tag team diden't finish him off?He overheard one wolf say to another"This guy tastes funny" Imagine...................Upper