View Full Version : 2001 rut moon
08-22-2001, 12:01 PM
Charles Alshiemer (sp?) in the latest "Deer and Deer Hunting" magazine says the 2001 harvest moon is earlier this year, Nov. 1 2001. He predicts the chasing to start around Oct. 25th with breeding to start around Nov. 7th. 2001. Rut activity to decrease around the Nov. 17th.
How about you lunatics? any thoughts?
08-22-2001, 02:50 PM
I think in order to predict the Rut there needs to be a "Latitude" in the formula (making the rut prediction pertain to a specific east/west swath across the States) ###
Here in Missouri, It seems like the Rut takes place in "Tiers" across the state, based on how far North you are. ###It seems like the State is divided up into 3 Tiers and each Tier is about a week apart.
There is a guy here in Missouri (named Horntagger) that has a rut prediction formula based on the 2nd full moon after Fall Equinox (Autumn)
His Formula seems pretty close to me (but does not include Latitude) and almost agrees with Mr. Alshiemer's prediction. ###
(Yes Gizz, I wrote a subroutine to calculate his formula)
Pre - Rut ###10/31/2001 ###- ###11/06/2001
Main Rut ###11/07/2001 ###- ###11/14/2001
Post -Rut ###11/15/2001 - ###11/20/2001
Pre - Rut ###11/28/2001 ###- ###12/04/2002
Main Rut ###12/05/2002 ###- ###12/12/2002
Post -Rut ###12/13/2001 - ###12/18/2001
Here in Mo. they predict a normal rut of 11/15 I think so looks like Horntaggers Prediction indicates rut a few days early
08-30-2001, 07:59 PM
I don't know how you remember all of this stuff but I am definately hanging out with you. You have impressed me several times with your knowledge on specific topics. Everytime I see a post by you or Jesse I can rest assured that I am going to learn something good. That is what makes this site so valuable to me. I truly appreciate you sharing this stuff with us.
Please be seated, hunting school is now in session.
08-31-2001, 06:42 AM
Well thanx Buckoholic
I feel the same way about Jesse and about 30 others on this forum, ###you guys are my type people, technical types, and at least when I say some Mumbo-Jumbo on here, I don't get funny lookin' stares, ha ha
09-27-2001, 11:01 AM
that may be when it happens up Nawth.. ###but i've never seen the rut begin in central Mississippi untill at least the 2nd week of december. ###maybe Welby could shed some light on things around here.
09-28-2001, 07:26 AM
Used to, you could count on about the second or third week in December for the rut. ###However...
...for the past three or four years, I've noticed that the most rutting activity actually takes place in late January through February, way after season closes. ###In fact, there is such a greater amount of rubs and scrapes during that time, that I just believe that the rut that occurs in December is only a minor one.
Does that are not bred come into estrous every 28 days (I think), and so with the excess of does that we have, it is conceivable that we could have a rut every month of the year. ###This is also evidenced by the fact that newborn fawns are most always spotted at any given time of the year.
That's my take, based on my observations. ###And, this may only apply to the areas I hunt, keep that in mind.
09-28-2001, 09:26 AM
Something must have went on Last Year because of the numbers of spotted fawns I'm still seeing, kind of late I think (here in Missouri) at least I never seen this many (maybe never seen any) this late
Of course, I don't see those 10 point bucks either, Doe-Not-Never see those guys
09-29-2001, 05:52 PM
probably one the most interesting things i've read on this sight. my hunt starts on nov. 3 in colorado. will be interesting to see if all this comes about.
10-05-2001, 07:51 AM
OK, first post here so bash away, but, I must jump in on this one. I have been a self-proclaimed lunatic for 6 years now and have a few observations to make and questions to ask. On my lease in Ga I tested all my lunar theories, some my own but most borrowed and found that the early data didn't support predicting the rut by the harvest moon as Mr. Alzheimer (sp) does. About 3 years into this we started managing for quality bucks and as the buck/doe ratio got closer to a 1-1 the rut became very predictable by his method. That led me to surmise that the dec. rutting activity was due to the number of does not bred in nov. causing an artificial lowering of the doe/buck ratio which in turn made for more heated competition for the remaining unbred does. I don't know about the doe/buck ratios in Miss. but it's something worth thinking about.
11-10-2001, 07:43 AM
Sorry none of this was even close. I just got back from Colorado and did not see ANY pre-rut or rut activity!!!! I think the weather has more to do than the moon. It was very warm and dry and NO sexual stuff going on. Last year this same time they were pre rutting and some rutting going on, but there was snow on the ground! It was also about 40 degrees cooler!
11-29-2001, 05:13 AM
Rut started here in Southern Ontario 3 days before hunt. No scrapes rubs 4 days prior then it started. By day three of the hunt bucks were exhausted and worn form fighting and frolicking
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