info on EAA double gun

[heldog]

dose anyone have any insight on EAA iZH MP221 in 45-70?

this double gun is priced under $1000
are they currently producing this gun?
is it a quality company?

any info would be appreciated
thanks

[Bwana Turtle]

Oh Crap !! When I saw the post I thought you had some info on it. At least you seem to have the model number. I'd love to get one.

[DKScott]

Copied this off some gunmag site:


EAA iZH MP221

A side-by-side double rifle for under $1,000 in .308, .30-06, .270 and .45-70 among others. Baikal's gunmakers have gotten around the troublesome (and expensive) process of regulating the barrels by installing a jackscrew that the customer can use to adjust one barrel's point of aim to the other, fixed barrel. Features include double triggers, iron sights, 11mm scope rail and more. Weight: 7.5 pounds. $629. (321) 639-4842, EAA Website (http://www.eaacorp.com)

[AMMOe]

These double rifles are now being marketed by Remington under the "Spartan" logo. I saw the full line at the SHOT Show. The 45-70 SxS was interesting with the jack screw but the whole barrel assembly had a certain AK-47-stamped feel to it as the center rib was a sheet metal. Interesting gun but -after much anticipation over the release of this rifle- it didn't turn me on too much.

I didn't see a SxS in any chambering other tham 45-70. The O/U combo guns came in the higher pressure calibers. ~AMMOe

[heldog]

Thanks guys for the help, i found the web page with the specs
http://www.spartangunworks.com/spr22.htm

i was hoping for chamber pressures in the 40k range so i could shoot some hot gerrett loads.
i currently am leaning towards the Marlin 1895 in 45-70

[DKScott]

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i currently am leaning towards the Marlin 1895 in 45-70[/b]

That&#39;s what I have - the rifle version with a Williams peep sight, and I love it.

[heldog]

dose the Williams peep sights help with getting on the target faster?

i currently am looking for an ecanomical big bore rifle that has a quick second shot and wont cost me an arm and a leg for ammo.

i plan on using this gun for under 100 yd shots.

[DKScott]

For a brush gun the peep site is quite effective and very fast. The next best alternative is probably a 1.5x EER scope at several times the cost.

I haven&#39;t found ammo to be hugely expensive. I use the standard Remington factory loadings for fun and I have some Corbons for hunting, though I&#39;ve yet to take any game with the gun. (it&#39;s a heck of a plinker though!). Somewhere, right now is a pig that will soon fall to this rig.

[larrysogla]

I have the Marlin 45-70 rifle. It is a very intimidating piece as the .458 diameter muzzle is yawning wide open & the cartridges are like cigars. Like DKScott said, it is one hell of a plinker & I have yet to bag a big game with it. My buddy shot 2 pigs(300 lb. & a 350 lb.) in quick succession one after the other from the same herd using Garrett ammo & the 300 lb. pig ran only 50 yds. before dropping & the 350 lb. pig dropped on the spot. It kicks like a mule & is painful shooting with Garrett ammo from the bench but shooting at hogs, it is a wonderful piece of artilllery. The Marlin lever action is very smooth & fast. We love it. God Bless. larrysogla.
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[larrysogla]

By the way, the Garrett bullets passed thru both big hogs shoulder bones & all & dug deep holes in the ground being on downward trajectories shooting from a treestand. larrysogla.
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[Taos]

Any body know anything about the eaa doubles making it to the shelves yet or are they **** up?

[gundogs]

The EAA long guns suffer greatly when it comes to fit and finish. I too looked at them while at the SHOT Show. One of my tasks while there was to look at double guns for tournament hunting and dangerous game rifles for our guide service. The jack screw idea is a cheap solution to the production of a double rifle with too many variables to consider, accuracy would most likely suffer. I think you would be much happier with the Marlin 1895 or the 1895G guide gun. Personally I would not want to pack the weight of a double gun in 45-70 when the lever is much easier to handle. My choice is the 1895G for most uses, my 1894 in 44mag sees allot of time on hogs.
If I were on safari in pursuit of dangerous game then a double in 400NE or 416 Rigby or a Mauser bolt action in 458 Lott would be great but that is another story.

[tmoniz]

Correct me if I&#39;m wrong but I read somewhere that EAA was made in Russia?
And imported by Remington.

[tmoniz]

http://www.baikalcanada.com/rifles_combos.htm

[gundogs]

EAA European American Armory is an importer which represents and distributes Ismash, Witness (Tanfolgio) and Baikal along with Zastava Mausers. I have personal experience with the EAA Witness hand guns and the fine line from Zastava in the Mauser bolt action rifles these are good quality indeed.
The Baikal factory is located in Russia and produces the Spartan line for Remington. These are new lines intended for entry level field guns, hopefully the quality improves after production settles in. Possibly they will produce some new models with improvements.

[tmoniz]

Wasn&#39;t Zastava the company that made the Mark X?

[gundogs]

Not sure about Mark X ? I do know they produced the Mausers and Mini Mausers along with the barreld actions for Charles Daly. Wish they were still availible great products! They are supposed to be coming out with Remington Mausers by Zastava but when??????