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BelchFire
07-14-2004, 06:39 PM
I REALLY, really like Uncle Mike's Hot Shot Nipple, and they've been discontinued. Does any body know where I can find a stock of them still laying around in 6 X .75mm? I'd like to buy about two spares if I could find them.

BF

Richard McCullough
07-16-2004, 07:59 AM
Don't know were you can get any, but the Spitfire nipples are a good nipple. I use them on all my muzzleloaders

AMMOe
07-16-2004, 05:11 PM
Belch: Discontinued! Really? Darned good stuff! I might have an extra "euro-nipple" in my junk box.. er... possible bag. I took to making them some time back. I pick up the steel or berylium copper nipples and carefully drill a tiny (#50 and smaller) vent hole in them using a drill press. Works for me.

Anyhow, I'll see what I have. ~AMMOe

AMMOe
07-22-2004, 09:09 AM
Belch: I went through my "stuff" but found no Euro Uncle Mikes. They are easy to make if you have the drill press and a set of Number gauge drills. If you can't get it done at home you could mail be a couple and I'll drill them for you. ~AMMOe

BelchFire
07-22-2004, 11:14 AM
AMMOe,

Thanks for looking. I have one on the gun, and one spare, so if I can't find any; I should be OK. What I was thinking about was that (new?) Great Plains Hunter that I may have in a few weeks/months. If I have to, I can always go to a different brand or model altogether. SpitFire or some other brand should be OK, I'm just partial to the Hot Shot Nipples.

What do you think about using a musket nipple on these guns?

AMMOe
07-22-2004, 11:29 AM
I've used them and they are OK. I actually like handling them better for hunting purposes. The winged musket caps are easy to get on the nipple with less fumbling. My Navy Arms "Buffalo Hunter" .58 has both: a #11 nipple on the gun and a musket nipple scewed into the wood inside the patch box so I can switch at will. The gun was like that when I bought it (used) but it seems like a good idea to have both. I'm always running low on one form of cap or the other. ~AMMOe

BelchFire
07-22-2004, 06:33 PM
That's what I was thinking. The larger cap would be easier handling with gloves and/or cold weather. That and the added "fire". But I also thought that because of the added fire, they would make a technical difference in the performance of the load just as switching brands of primer in a modern load would, but is it significant? I know that black powder is much less sensative (and inefficeint) than modern powder, but I've never tried switching nipples or primers. Does it make a difference to the load? Point of impact? Group size? (That was question 1)

Question 2, and I'll leave off. The musket nipple will sit higher won't it? Will that make a difference if the hammer strikes it at an angle rather than flat? More fire / less fire. More reliable / less reliable. Or am I being overly critical? Or is it really insignificant?

AMMOe
07-22-2004, 06:58 PM
Belch: Yes, the hammer would hit higher, and require a bit more 'whack" to set the cap off than would be required for a standard percussion cap. If your gun has a good lock it whould be no problem. As to the angle of impact on the nipple? If it's TOO high then you might have a problem I have found that you can take a bit off of the height of a musket nipple and actually get better ignition as there is a larger "flat" on the nnipple mouth for the explosive to be anviled against. You'll probably have to just give it a try and see. Performance has always been same-same for me. ~AMMOe

BelchFire
07-23-2004, 07:08 AM
Thanks, I&#39;ll let you know soon. I&#39;ve got some on order from DGW. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banana-man-yeah.gif

BelchFire
07-25-2004, 10:34 AM
Well, DGW package came in Friday. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banana-man-yeah.gif The musket nipples are actually shorter than the Uncle Mike&#39;s Hot Shot, and I&#39;ve never had any ignition problems with it, so I&#39;m all set. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif Except for one thing....the nipples won&#39;t start in the gun. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbs-down-little.gif I don&#39;t understand. I measured them as .005 over what I calculate 6mm to be (0.236). The Uncle Mike&#39;s nipple measures 0.236, and the original that came in the gun does too, but these measure 0.241. I would wonder if they just picked and shipped the wrong one but DGW doesn&#39;t list an oversized 6mm nipple. Reckon what gives?