Hey Scank

[finsnfowl]

Please e-mail me at firemedic46@hotmail.com. I have found out something that may interest you. This is not spam or nothing against you, just something that you might find interesting about somebody and I wish not to post it here and violate the tearms of agreement. Trust me on this one, it will be worth it...... finsnfowl

[Jay]

It's been kind of boring around here lately.

Maybe we can get something going.......

Is it:

- ###a list of fish and game violations for some of Scank's enemies?

- a blackmail attempt by threatening to expose Scank's true identity?

- evidence to confirm Scank's viewpoint of "refuge hunters"?

- sound clips of E.A. on his duck call?

- pictures of someone taking "long" shots on birds?

- a plan to close all refuges to hunting like Scank recommends? ###

It's so secretive you know it's gotta be something pretty good. We've still got five months till duck season, we need to liven things up out there.

[Scank]

I don't want to point fingers or name names without a back-up verification but if it is true(which I think it is) this is a REAL BLOCKBUSTER.
Anyone remember a little trouble around the LDC check station in 1998?

[Jay]

I remember......... I couldn't make it in on the sweat line.

Yep, trouble at the check station all right.

So you've got some dirt on somebody eh? With the way you're gloating I can guess who you got the dirt on.

Just remember today's quote of the day: "When you air somebody else's dirty laundry the skid tracks stay with you." ###

[Scank]

Jay, that somebody is the same clown who blew his duck call constantly throughout the raffle portion of a CWA dinner. Sad, real sad..

[Jay]

Was it good calling or bad calling?

Was he able to call out the winning raffle numbers with that call?

E.A. can play "Old McDonald" on his. I'm working on "When the saints go marching in".

Did he use a moto?

Was he "lettin em work" or was was he scraping?

All this happened at a CWA dinner at the LDC check station? Amazing!

[jerry d]

Whee, that was a close one!!! ###Thought someone had found out about my prison record for shootin high and was about to expose me as a SKY BUSTER!!!! ###

Jay seems to be awful nervous. You don't suppose.........naw, couldn't be......... could it???? ###

Maybe this is something for the Enquirer, or even the Star!!!

[Scank]

Does anyone know the name of the person who was asked to leave LDC in 1998 for being rude to the refuge staff? He wasn't banned for hunting violations but was asked to leave because of his embarassing attitude. aka-Check Station Groupie..

[jerry d]

Ok Darth Jay,

Was this you or one of your Ewok pals doing one of their cute little dances.

I understand this individual was wearing fuzzy waders

I thought this only happened on Endor.

Who was this individual. Will we ever know!!!! ###

Now's the time to fess up and get a fresh start.

Just wondering........

[Darth Jay]

I was wearing waders that day and once you collect enough cockleburrs they do look fuzzy so I fit the description.

Did this event happen on the "dark side" of the check station?

Remember what Yoda said: "There are always two, an apprenctice and a master."

[Jay]

This is a "BLOCK BUSTER"?

Being rude to the refuge staff?

That's pretty lame. It's gotta get better than that to be a block buster. Sounds more like it was released straight to video.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZ............ZZZZZZZZZZ.............ZZZ ZZZZ

[Scank]

If you know somebody who worked for the DFG in 1998 at Litle Dry Creek ask them about what it takes to get thrown off the refuge. Carpe, you are a loyal follower of this clown because you have bought into his self centered, know-it-all attitude.
The individual seen disrupting a recent CWA dinner will not comment because he does not want to "darken" his following on this page. But, all who know him or have seen him in action truely understand what I'm saying.

[Greenhead]

Scank, wow! What a blockbuster! I'm shocked! I'm sure Dan Rather and a film crew from 48 Hours are in route to expose this scam of scams. Not.

I know "him" and have seen "him" in person. Contrary to what you seem to think, he didn't offer me any special kool-aid or wear an orange robe. All I've seen is a guy who puts in hundreds of hours of his own time and takes cheap shots from you as a result.

As for the refuge staff, I've seen guys be mean and nasty towards them, and, believe it or not, the staff deserved it. With your attitude, you'd end up going to jail if you ever had to leave your private marsh and try your skills on a refuge. ###

[Scank]

Well Greenhead maybe you are right. Was this individual asked to leave LDC and was he out-of-control at a recent fund raising event? If you know him you should know the truth . Ask him..Bye the way, who is he?

[Jay]

Nice try there Scank.

I've never claimed to be a "know it all". I'm just a normal run of the mill guy who's been hunting ducks for a few years and enjoys doing it.

I just happen to get a little antagonistic when some aristocratic rice farmer with a private marsh rags on and sterotypes public "refuge hunters" as low-life scum who litter, sky-scrape and shoot before shooting time.

As far as being a "loyal follower" of your clown I still don't know who it is. If you're trying to implicate your nemisis, I'd like to make the following comments:

1. Blowing a duck call during a CWA raffle actually seems kind of appropriate in a ducky sort of way if 'ya know what I mean.
2. "Being asked to leave for rudeness" is by no means a capital offense. I've done worse. How about you?
3. I've only met your nemisis twice, both times on accident.

"Loyal follower"?

Nah, doesn't fit Scank. Try again, whiz off that ivory tower in a new direction, but watch out for that wind!

###

[Scank]

Hey Carpe!! Learn how to read. I didn't state you were a know-it-all.
What you say about refuge hunters is true..And we all know it.
I'm not asking you to defend the one kicked out of LDC ,you did that on your own.
Try to develope an open mind because everything is true. Just ask around..

[Jay]

Point well taken there Scank, you did not call me a know-it-al, you said I'm a loyal follower of your nemisis because I've bought in to his know-it-all attitude.

I went back and read "See Spot Run" a couple of time to brush up on my reading skills.

I don't know how you could make a determination that I've bought in to somebody else's attitude. To me that sounds like an attempt to lump me into the same canoe as your nemisis. Kind of like the same way you lump "refuge hunters" together and label them as low-life scum who litter, sky-scrape and shoot early. It was refreshing to see you finally admit to viewing refuge hunters that way.

So Scank let's move it up a notch:

You say it's all true and everyone knows it. Hmmmm.....

In your opinion, what percentage of refuge hunters fit your bill? Do you really think that everyone who hunts public lands is a slob? What if a guy hunts exclusively on private land and then falls on hard times financialy so one year he hunts on the public refuges. Did this guy become a slob by the mere fact that he ran out of money? ###

Did you develop these opinions first hand from hunting on public areas or did you hear them from somebody else?

Do you occasionaly go out and hunt public areas to see if your views are accurate or are you absolutely positive that that's the way it is and it will never change?

Are you willing to challenge your views by doing a public refuge hunt next season?

[Greenhead]

Jay, Scank's not willing to do anything that involves a refuge or all of us that hunt refuges. He's said so himself.

No, he's much better at sitting behind a computer and taking cheap, pot shots at folks. He doesn't know what he's talking about when he writes his poison pen crap about refuge hunters because he's a spoiled rice farmer living off of his dad's back.

So, he can say all he wants and write his jibberish. We know who's right and who's wrong and the latter goes by the touching name of Scank, which is very fitting.

As I've said before, if Scank ever had to leave his little patch of paradise and hunt a refuge, he'd be lucky to go home with a coot. Come to think of it, Coots and Scanks go well together. Kind of a "scoot," like "scoot" over to the latrine...

[Swampy]

Dang, and it's not even about Motos. Details, details. Who what and where? Let the jury decide. ###

[Scank]

I'm not living off anyone's back. Getting personal when mentioning my dad.
You elect to shoot in the refuges. I don't.
I wasn't going to start blasting refuge hunters with this thread. Jay and Greenhead started this war.
I received information from VERY reliable people about a person banned from LDC in 1998. Also, an incident at a recent CWA dinner were he was disruptive and abusive. Hey,if you know anyone who worked at LDC in "98 simply ask.
I can't believe people still will not accept the truth regarding this guy. I wish I could name him but I would be banned from this forum. You see I follow the rules unlike this individual.

[Duck Fan]

Obviously, I must be missing something....who actually cares about what happened at a check station in 1998? ###What impact or relavance does this have to anything? ###I am a refuge hunter - have been for 36 years. ###I have met some guys that I might say were unsportsmanlike, but the vast majority have been tremendous stewards of the resource. ###I am glad there are places for those able to hunt private lands, but I am equally happy that there are wonderful refuges that my family can visit. ###

I enjoy the hunting sports just like thousands of others - and with that number of hunters, there is always goign to be some that we won't see eye-to-eye with. ###I just ignore them and go about my business of hunting.

As for me, I am counting the days when I can be back in the marsh at a public refuge. ###And, maybe we will eventually all get back to "talking" about that.

[Jay]

Scank you seem to blast refuge hunters every chance you get.

I'm just trying to understand why you think the way you do, but you keep ignoring my questions.

Your nemisis may be an arrogant, bombastive and aggressive blowhard. So what? Have you actually talked to him? You wouldn't even have to tell him who you were, you know a little incognito kind of thing. You could wear a hidden camera and then post video clips of all his rude, outrageous, clownish behaviour so we could all see it. But there is a danger here, you might find out that he's just a person with quirks, faults and short comings who loves to hunt ducks...... like the rest of us.

You might even find that you like him....... oh no! Then what? What an ironic twist of fate! The cruelty of it all!

The door to your ivory tower is locked..... from the inside. You can walk out any time you want. But I gotta warn you, if you step outside you may be forced to revise your views.

Here it is Scank:

Next season when I pull a good reservation for Delevan, Sac or Little Dry Creek, I'll invite you to come hunt with me. No strings attached. You don't have to invite me to hunt your private marsh. You don't have to tell me your real name. All you'll have to do is show up at the check station. If the hunting's lousy, people treat you rudely, or you witness lots of unsportsmanlike behaviour you can leave any time you like.

Deal? ### ### ###

[Mike Riley]

Since it now seems Scankie-poo is trying to say I was his Blockbuster, I guess I might as well break his bubble. ###I have never been ask to leave or ejected from any refuge. ###Better get your facts straight before you get yourself in trouble with untrue acquisitions. Yes, I did buy a duck call at a recent CWA dinner auction and blew it a couple of times. ###Guilty - is that a capital offense. ###Darken my following - that's a good one. ###No scank since I knew I've never got the boot, I just didn't bother coming back to your ramblings. ###Scank someday you'll wake up and realize that your wonderful nickname and negative attitude go hand & hand and neither are getting you anywhere. ###

[Jay]

Scank,

You might be getting set up here. So far you've got:

1. Some third party info about a supposed "rudeness" event at Little Dry Creek three years ago.

2. An apparent personal observation of clownish behavior at a CWA raffle, namely blowing a duck call.

3. A denial from your nemisis concerning item 1.

The burden of proof is on the prosecution. What I've yet to see is:

1. Anyone collaborating the LDC event.
2. Anyone else who considers blowing a call, won or bought at a CWA event to be "clownish" behavior.

This "block buster" is a dud. Even if everything is absolutely true, it still don't qualify as a block buster. This is what's called a "Red Herring".

Thanks for the entertainment though.

Maybe you'd like to drop your case.

My deal still stands.

[mudhen]

Did I miss something? ###By far the most unpleasant duck hunters I have encountered have been on private duck clubs. ###Maybe I have not hunted the most elite clubs (Although Joice Island Duck Club was pretty elite before selling out), but I have hunted many good private clubs in the Sac Valley. ###Some, but not all, club hunters maintain an attitude that they are entitled to fine shooting merely because they paid a particular sum of money. ###Last I checked, wild birds don't seem to care about money.

Now, not many club hunters walk through my decoys or set up nearby, but their conduct can be just as detrimental from a distance. ###Club hunters sky-bust, shoot early, double-dip, trash blinds, etc. just like anywhere else. ###Petty jealousy rages on at clubs and refuges alike.

I would drop any discussion of refuges vs. clubs. ###Bad hunters hunt badly wherever they go! ###

Generally though, I have found that adding one of these bad hunters to a high priced club is a recipe for discontent for everyone involved. ###

mudhen

[E A Hunt]

###Jay, I hope you check with me before you take Mister Holy Boy Club hunters are better than everybody else.

I'd hate to find out that i sat at home while you and the perfect one spent the day in the marsh.

Plus....He would change his tune when he hears the early shots going off at the clubs next to the refuge boundry.

Don't do it Jay... Take the deal off the table.

The big deal at LDC wasn't we know who doing you know what it was...................

Bigdog (Dave) ### showing everybody his tatoo of a Spoonie on his butt.

[hronk]

Is there any month of the year that you "Waterfowlers" don't whine and cry about each other? 6 months ago I posed the question about whining /waterfowlers compared to other hunters and a lot of you thought that I was picking on you. ###Check the other game specific boards and find 1 that has the cry babies that are here! ###Bet you can't do it, can you?.....hronk

[Greenhead]

Hronk, in my exhaustive research I've tabulated that February is the LLTB (Leat Likely Too Bitch) month for waterfowlers.

Like me and others have told you before, if you took the deer hunters, confined them all to a refuge where they may or may not get to hunt on any given morning, they would whine and moan aplenty.

In fact, it won't be long now before the deer hunters will begin picking at each others scabs and complaining about road hunters, the method of draw, seasons that are too early, too few deer, too little/much rain, hot weather, game wardens, etc.

I also think most duck hunters are much more passionate about it than deer hunters. I think the reason is the longer season and the fact that it's entirely possible for many to leave the office after a few hours of work on Wednesday and be hunting shortly after lunch.

Finally, why do you care? If you don't like what you read, you're free to leave. ###

[Jay]

Who let the dogs out?

Who let the dogs out?

Who let the dogs out?

Who let the dogs out?

[jerry d]

Jay,

I think I may have an answer to your "Who let the dogs out" question.

I have it from "someone" that it was a certain person that was kicked out of LDC Check Station in 1998 and was further observed tooting on a duck call recently.

Now I could be wrong so I'm waiting for conformation by others that may have been present when the door to the dog pen was opened.

By the way, there was an article in the Enquirer that would have revealed this mystery persons identity but as I was reaching for the last issue at the supermarket checkout a large woman beat me to it and refused to share. Although she offered to wrestle for it, I graciously declined......

(Edited by jerry d at 12:08 am on May 11, 2001)

[Jay]

"Jerry The Hammer" backed down on a wrestling challenge?

Ya right!

E.A. -
E-mail me and I'll send you some blockbuster info that will be well worth your while. Evidence concerning what really happened at a supermarket check out line back in 1998. First hand, eyewitness testimony that "The Hammer" put a large woman in a head lock in order to get the last copy of the December 98 issue of the Enquirer. That was the issue that first broke the news on the activities in the Gray Lodge parking lots. Remember, body piercing in parking lot 17! :o ###

Put up a wooduck box and get a nose ring!

[Welby]

Wow!!! ###

You guys seem to be such good friends. ###And real close too! ###I get all teary-eyed reading your exchanges.

Now, carry on....

[jerry d]

Hey Welby,

I too get teary eyed - remember the old song "Cry Me A River".

It was a long, dry, almost birdless season and all of us need an outlet for our frustrations. Fortunately Jesse allows us to have fun here. Just think what it would be like if we didn't like one another!!!!

By the way, don't mention anything to that guy Jay, a "#@*># refuge hunter", about your personal life. It'll be all over cyber space before you know it. He has no idea how large that woman really was. But you gotta admit Jay's nose ring does look cute!!!! ###

Although another BLOCKBUSTER is about to surface that E. A. chickened out on the nose ring and instead oppted for another part of his body, I'm still waiting for conformation by "someone" that witnessed this event that this is indeed true.......

[Jay]

Ouch! I don't care what universe you're from, that's gotta hurt.

Sure hope it doesn't affect his calling ability........ may take it up a couple of octaves.

wahh, wahhhhhh, wahhhh, wahhh, wah.. ###

Now that, was a greenhead with a wedgie if I ever heard one! ###

How much longer till dove season?

I'm getting a little restless here.

Where'd Scank go? You invite a guy to go duck hunting and he just disappears on you. Maybe he's on vacation or out doing some plowing.

[E A Hunt]

I sure got dragged through this topic........keep it up i like any attention I can get.

Growing up an orphen was pretty hard on me. On top of that having red hair and a step mother didn't help.

[BigDog]

So that is what happened to you E.A. I have been wondering how you got so warped.....lol

[Scank]

Check out http://www.waterfowlrefuge.com The people using this forum are not afraid to speak the truth on issues ranging from the "moto" debate, the real problem in CA "rot" water, and other so-called topics labled as rumors.

[Greenhead]

Waterfowlrefuge.com is a site on the way down, not up. I never liked it back when the main guy was in his prime, and I really don't like it now because it's too boring.

Hey Scank, why don't you go over there and enlighten all of them on how refuges should be shut down. I'm sure you'll have a whole following. Or, go to this link: http://refugeforums.com/ubbcgi/ultimatebb....=forum&f=26 (http://refugeforums.com/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=26) and enlighten them. Refuge Forum is a good board, and so is Jesse's board.

[Jay]

Got a picture of me and my dog over there Scank, so now you know what I look like.

Just look for the guy in the Gortex jacket at the check station when you come on that refuge hunt I've been offering you.

[tommyo]

Let out with the truth on "rot water" if you please.

[E A Hunt]

Scanky

I couldn't get in to your link you posted. http://www.waterfowlrefuge.com

Is there a secret password or handshake or is it reserved for rice farmers who hunt their baited ponds ?

[spectr17]

E.A.,

Try the link now, I edited the url address so it will work.