Kent Impacts

[twoducks]

I was given a several boxes of Kent Impact, Tungsten Matrix shells for my "3 20ga., anyone out there have any comments about the shells one way or the other, I know they are very exspensive, but I have them and was wondering where to start with them. ###I will pattern them but keeping cost in mind was wondering will they work for Snows, Specks and large ducks within 40 yards or closer? ###I need a starting place to begin with. T^hanks

[E A Hunt]

My buddies shot them up in canada last year and then loved them. They both bought a case for the up comming season. Put a hurt on the honkers up to 50+ yards and hamburgered the ducks at close range.

[Scank]

I love it!! More and more people are shooting higher and higher. I wonder if I could bring my dog to a Refuge in the mid-afternoon and pick up a limit of cripples. There must be hundereds of them with all the skyscraping going on.
Hey, instead of banning the moto why not look into banning these tungsten shells. Come on Riley and the CWA lets have a UC study on types of shotgun shells. Maybe the anti's will put it on the ballot.

[Jay]

Sunday afternoons. Bring your dog and pick up an easy limit of crips. Some guys hunt without dogs and lose ducks, others would be better off if they lost the dog. Walk the overgrown levees and you'll find crips resting on the shorelines. I even found a few geese.

It's a shame. ###

[twoducks]

In the post that I ran I never once said anything about shooting high just because I was using Tungsten-Matrix. If you read it I was refering to my 20ga and shooting 40yards or closer. I recieved them as a gift and was trying to get some input on chokes and ranges, maybe you are looking for something that just isn't there, not sure what your agenda is but just because someone shoots Tungsten-Matrix doesn't make them a high shooter or leaving cripples all over the area!

[shovelerslayer]

Twoducks,

I bought several boxes and used them for geese this past year. ###They hit really hard and they did a great job... ###Down side is that I have been shooting steel for so long now that I had a little trouble at first in lead adjustment. ###I too use a 20 guage and I was concerned about steel on geese. ###Unlike some of your other responders, I am not perfect and have misjudged distances or had to finish a bird off at 50 yards. ###With the steel ( even in a 12 guage) unless a wing was broke, the honkers absorbed the hit and flew quite far before folding. ###The Kent Tungsten flat knocked their socks off if I got them in my pattern. ###A buddy carries half a dozen with him when we are in the blind just for geese or tough cripples. ###I would not use them on ducks, but i would reccommend them for geese.

HNTR

[Fubar]

Just because you chose to use Tungsten or Bismuth does not necessarily mean you are going to start skyscraping. I have used both on geese and find it is far superior to steel for geese. I hunt at Cibola National Wildlife refuge and the rule everyone follows there is the geese have to be backpedalling in your decoys with their feet down. ###We let them land if they will. So there are not that many crips and steel works fine there as the shots are close. One of the problems I see with geese is they are so large most people think they are closer than they really are. I am not wealthy so I cant afford to shoot anything but steel at ducks. ### ### ### ### ### ### ### Fubar

(Edited by Fubar at 6:15 pm on July 1, 2001)

[E A Hunt]

Twoducks and Hntr

Stank is like the stray dog around here always lookin to pick a fight. most of us just ignore it and don't respond to his garbage he/she spues.

Feed the dog and it won't go away. Quit feeding it and it will get run down on the highway eating a road killed skunk. Don't feed it.

[twoducks]

EA, thanks for the heads up I will keep that in mind in the future, but appreciate the feed back from the others on the Tungstenshells, I ###shoot steel ###most of the time and will surely use it when the Impacts are gone.

[Mike Riley]

The tungsten matrix is a great duck/goose stopping load. ###BUT, as Shovelerslayer stated you will need to adjust your leads. ###In close it is a slower load than steel, but at about 35-40 yards they equal out and the matrix load actually requires less lead on longer finishing shoots. ###If changing leads throws you off, try tungsten iron, same speed as steel in close and faster out a ways (better retained energy). ###I would save the Impacts for geese - get your moneys worth out of them. ###

[BigDog]

I have tried both Tungsten and Bismuth with limited sucess but I believe it is mainly due to my switching back and forth. As mentioned in previous posts, the leads are different from steel and from each other. This coming year, my plan is to decide on one and stick to it. Sure hope my dog has LOTS of puppies so I can afford some of the premium shells....lol

[Jay]

I wasn't trying to imply that guys with harder hitting loads would be taking more marginal shots.

I'm of the persuasion that if you got the right gun, right load, right choke and you've practiced enough to make the shot better than 50% the time, you should feel free to take the shot. For me this holds true at 10 yards and 100 yards (although having never practiced at 100 yards, I don't take those shots).

The biggest reasons for crips that I've seen at the refuges is guys hunting heavy cover with no dog or guys not making the effort to chase down birds that sail. So the fact is on any Sunday afternoon you can walk the back levees and scrape a limit of crips plus an occasional goose.