Ham Slam

[Speckmisser]

OK folks!

Let's start hyping ourselves up for May! What are you gonna be shooting? Anybody holding out for trophy hogs? Who's driving what?

Bring it on, porky! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-dancin-red.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-shootin-green.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-gunfighter-yellow.gif

[karstic]

7mm Rem Mag

Any pig that crosses my sights (this is my first pig hunt http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-dancin-red.gif )

4wd Jeep Cherokee choked full of recovery gear (on the advice of Roadmisser)

[reddog5]

.308 rem, backup or if the chance arises Glock20.

I&#39;ll be shootin anything that comes my way as well. I need pork in the freezer! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif

Mazda B3000 4X4

[prohunter]

I will be shooting my 7mm-08 Styer. I think any pig by the posts I have been reading so far about Tejon this year.

[One Track]

Ye Haa! Yep, it&#39;s just around the corner. 36 days and counting. I&#39;m ready to go get me some pork. Also, looking forward to meeting some of you characters. I&#39;m kinda shy, so please don&#39;t think that I&#39;m stuck up. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-oops-yellow.gif

Rem 700 in 30-06 baby! I&#39;m tired of holding out for a big boar. I can&#39;t stomach going 0-fer again. I&#39;m shootin&#39; the first 300 pound pig that I see.

Ford F150, Silver, 4x4, 6 inch lift and 35 inch tires. Hard to miss. New-model JHO sticker.

[Rancho Loco]

Rem 700 in 30-06, and my Timber Carbine in .444 Marlin in case the need arises.

I&#39;ll be driving my F-250 4x4 PSD.

Here piggie, piggie...

[Speckmisser]

Cool to see some action here.

Most of ya&#39;ll have seen the pix of the Tactical Vehicle, although next time you see it, I&#39;m not planning to be hanging off the side of a cliff!

I think I&#39;m gonna try to take a pig with my Grandfather&#39;s old BAR in .308 this year. I don&#39;t usually like to switch guns, but I really would like to kill something with this "heirloom". I&#39;ll have the .44 on hip and the -06 Savage in the backseat, though.

I&#39;ve never been a trophy hunter, and won&#39;t start now. If it&#39;s not sucking on mama, it&#39;s going in the cooler. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-shootin-green.gif

Prohunter, I hope those reports are just a result of all the water and food up there during the wet months. Hopefully, by the time the May hunt rolls around, the water will be scarcer and the grass will be brown. Should concentrate the hogs and have them moving longer distances. We&#39;ll have to drop Elkron a note as the date gets closer, and see what he has to say. Maybe a little pre-hunt recon from the man who knows... or maybe not. It&#39;s up to him.

Dang, but I&#39;m ready! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-dancin-red.gif

[gwhunter69]

http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-dancin-red.gif Tax season is over tonight, so I am ramping up for the JHO Ham Slam! It will be my second trip to Tejon. Bubba and I got two nice ones there last time. I am hoping for a repeat performance. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-wnk-yellow.gif

I will be shooting a Winchester Model 70 Featherlight (I will need it on those Tejon hills) with a back up S&W Sigma, .40 Cal. I debated taking my Remington 742, .308...but light won out.

I will not be trophy hunting, unless more than one pig http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pig-laughing.bmp crosses my path at the same time, then I will take a big tusker over a smaller one. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cross-fingers.gif

[Hogskin]

I&#39;ll be shooting (I hope) a Model 70 30-06. I&#39;m not holding out for anything spectacular... if I see anything over 125lbs, it&#39;s taking a dirt nap. After shooting hogs 300+, I prefer the smaller oinkers. At least that&#39;s a good hedge for me failing to score. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-wnk-yellow.gif

[One Track]

Should we start a list to see who is actually going? Just kinda curious. Can we just cut and paste and add names? I don&#39;t really know. But, here&#39;s my crew:

One Track
Fair Chase
Buck Eye
Hog Dog

[Speckmisser]

Hey OneTrack,

There&#39;s a list started over in the Hog forum. If you wanted to collect it and paste over here, that would be cool.

There are a bunch of guys on here that I&#39;ve never seen post... many of them with only one or two posts ever. And of course, there are some friends of members who got signed up too.

Anyway... I&#39;m just ready to go shoot a hog.

[bubba]

Can&#39;t wait. Should have the new rifle broken in by then. I&#39;ll be bringing my new Sako Finnlight in .270. I&#39;ll bring the old reliable 300 win mag as back up.

[TMAN]

I was gonna wait until the 21st then start this thread my self. Didn&#39;t want too seem too anxious. I am glad someone beat me to it, &#39;cause I can hardly wait! I will be in my F350 crewcab 4x4. Savage 110 synthetic 30&#39;06. .44 on my hip (which I hope to get into range to use). I have not taken a hog before so I am not going to be picky.

I have a few questions for those of you who have done a PIG-O-RAMA before.

1.) If I get my pig on Friday, can I hang around for the rest of the weekend to just check out the ranch or drive some of the guys around or to help push a canyon or to help drink beer or be the camp cook or whatever? I live in Bakersfield so I could deliver a pig to the processor and be back round trip in 1-1/2 to 2 hours.

2.) Would it be feasible to haul my 29 foot fifth wheel up there. Are the roads on the ranch to the camping area relatively smooth / wide? How far from ranch headquarters? A/C, heater, fridge and a real bed might be nice after a long day humping the hills. It&#39;s either the fifth wheel or sleep in the truck.

3.) Is my F350 crewcab longbed too big to make it on some/many/most of the roads. I am assuming switchbacks for major elevation changes. I could bring a &#39;67 bronco if necessary but then the 5th wheel stays at home.

So are we gonna do some sort of biggest pig prize or something. I know that for a "normal" PIG-O-RAMA Tejon awards $500 to the biggest pig.

I work in L.A. quite a bit and every time I drive past Tejon I get more excited. (saw several deer today)

I am sure that I will think of more and will post as things come up

[One Track]

Hi TMAN:

I don&#39;t know as much as a lot guys, but I could take a shot at answering some of your questions. Kids are in bed, so just looking for something like this to do.

1. Yes you can hang out after killing your hog.

2. Yes on the 5th wheel. There is a paved road from the gate to the camping area. No problem. There are no utilities at the campsite.

3. I think your longbed will be fine in most places. Maybe 90% of the roads will be do-able. There are some smaller tighter roads that might not be so accomodating. I think you will know which roads those are when you see them. No surprises to speak of on the primary and secondary roads. The Bronco is definitely more well-suited for Tejon.

Look forward to meetin&#39; you.

Brent

[bighorn67]

I&#39;ll be there. Rem 700 3006 with a swift scope. Fingers crossed.

Dave

[Speckmisser]

TMan,

OneTrack answered your first three questions just fine. Your F350 isn&#39;t gonna be much different from my 3/4 ton Ram, and I don&#39;t have much problem when the roads are dry. Clearance and speed control are probably the biggest issues you&#39;ll deal with. There are tight turns and steep climbs, but they&#39;re all do-able when the roads are dry (as they should be in May). Sure, there are a couple of jeep trails too small for a real truck, but you need to use at least a little boot-leather on this trip. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-wnk-yellow.gif

As to "big pig" prizes and such...

Tejon Ranch will not be sponsoring any prizes for this hunt, since it&#39;s 100% JHO and not a Tejon event. I did get Barbara to confirm that we will have use of the ranch scale and an operator, so we will be weighing all hogs killed during the hunt.

Jesse and I have talked about some possibilities, but at this point let&#39;s just say, "be ready for surprises." More to come on that later, as we get stuff ironed out. I would add that it could be worthwhile to stay at least through Saturday night, even if you tag out early.

And this is to everyone...

If you bring a camper and generator, think about bringing a sound-damping box for the generator, especially if you&#39;re planning to run it at night. I imagine a bunch of guys will be up around the fire a good part of the evening, but some folks also like to turn in early. Be considerate if you&#39;re running generators in camp. They&#39;re pretty noisy.

On the other side of that coin, if you&#39;re the type who sacks out at sunset, you may want to consider a set of earplugs. There&#39;s lots of room around camp, and I don&#39;t think it&#39;s ever been extremely loud, but a nice set of soft, foam plugs can be the difference between aggravation and a good night&#39;s sleep. There will invariably be at least a handful of folks enjoying adult beverages and the accompanying fellowship into the smaller hours.

[pitdog]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
. There will invariably be at least a handful of folks enjoying adult beverages and the accompanying fellowship into the smaller hours.[/b]

Good news to all... I lost my harmonica!!! I know some of you will miss me jammin on the harp at 1:00am http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-hair-raisin-blue.gif

[hronk]

Camp fires on friday and Sat. nites...Who&#39;s bringing the wood? I&#39;m good for about 4 hrs of fuel if you need it. Depends on how much the back of a cj-5 will hold. How about other stuff? what comunal stuff do we need.? The CJ won&#39;t hold to many Hooters chicks.....hronk

[reddog5]

I just got some nice big Eucalyptus logs just waitin to be used! I can fill about half my trucks bed with firewood. Let me know. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif

[Speckmisser]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
Who&#39;s bringing the wood? I&#39;m good for about 4 hrs of fuel if you need it. Depends on how much the back of a cj-5 will hold. How about other stuff? what comunal stuff do we need.?[/b]

Personally, I think that beyond firewood, there&#39;s not much requirement for communal type planning. It gets a little helter skelter with everyone hunting hard all day, so trying to plan group dinners and such is probably a losing proposition. Of course, anyone who wants to plan group cooking is welcome to take the lead. I&#39;ll be there with plate and fork in hand. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-cool-shades-down.gif

Of course, anyone who wants to bring extra goodies and beer/soda/etc. is more than welcome to do so. It&#39;s always nice to share. I usually throw an extra 6 pack on ice, even though I don&#39;t drink much beer. If I get a chance to make another batch, I may have a bag of elk jerky along as well.

Dang, isn&#39;t it May yet? http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-ren.gif

[Speckmisser]

I just got a note from Barbara at Tejon. Something I hadn&#39;t considered was what time everyone should be checking in. It seems like every year at the POR I&#39;m late (heck, it&#39;s a 6.5hr drive), so I wasn&#39;t aware of her preferred policy.

Anyway, what I&#39;d like to do is try to start checking in at 1000 on Friday, May 21, and hope to have everyone present and accounted for by 1200. I know that some folks may need to make exceptions, so I&#39;d really like to know who you are and what time you think you&#39;ll be arriving. If the majority would like to start checking in a little later...say, 1200, then let&#39;s get consensus and I can try to arrange the plans accordingly.

If you&#39;re going to be really late, then I&#39;ll likely have to sacrifice hunting time to get you squared away... and that would suck (the price I pay for organizing, I suppose). Needless to say, I&#39;d prefer not to have to do that, so let&#39;s make the arrangements NOW.

I am meeting with Barbara on May 10 to hand in the paperwork, and would like to work out all of these details with her then. So if you don&#39;t speak up now, you&#39;ll have to deal with whatever we arrange.

More to come as the date gets closer!

[One Track]

Let&#39;s all try to get there by 9 or 10am so Speck can go hunting at noon. It&#39;s the least we can do. Sittin&#39; around for a few hours and talkin&#39; about huntin&#39; is better than drivin&#39; and wishin&#39; you were talkin&#39; &#39;bout huntin&#39;, and....stuff.

23 days and counting...

[Rancho Loco]

Earlier the better for me.

Mapquest sez...Total Est. Time: 4 hours, 30 minutes Total Est. Distance: 277.11 miles

Four and a half hours...hehehehe...
I can do better than that.

[hronk]

I&#39;ll be there at 4 in the morning if it means hunting earlier!!! Seriously. The earlier the better....hronk

[PIGIG]

hey has anyone evernoticed that the south boundry is kinda the shape of texas http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-bag-on-head.gif

[DILPRXO]

9:00- 10:00 sounds good to me http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-2drunks-singing.gif

[bighorn67]

I will try to be there by 9:00. I want to be well set up before the afternoon hunt also.

Dave

[Speckmisser]

Originally posted by PIGIG@Apr 28 2004, 07:42 PM
hey has anyone evernoticed that the south boundry is kinda the shape of texas http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-bag-on-head.gif
Now THAT was relevant! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-sideways-laff-aqua.gif

Just raggin&#39; on ya, Pigig. But no, I never had noticed that.

Hey guys, you don&#39;t have to get there too early. Official hunt time isn&#39;t until 1200, and with the heat we&#39;ve been having, it&#39;s not even gonna get good until later in the evening.

But I&#39;m eager too! So I&#39;ll work it out with Barbara on May 10. In the meantime, keep &#39;em coming guys... especially any of you who think you may have a hard time getting there by noon.

[fairchase]

I&#39;ll be shooting a 50cal. muzzleloader and I&#39;d say just about any decent pig I come across better beware.
As far as check-in...the earlier the better. I&#39;m ready, let me at em&#39; http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-hitting-self.gif

[Hogskin]

Speck,

I&#39;m going to bring my popup trailer, but I didn&#39;t put the license plate number on the application. Is that going to be a problem?

[grtwythunter]

The earlier the better Speck. Most of my junk is packed already and I&#39;ve only got a 45 minute drive to the front gate. See ya&#39;ll there.

Hogkin.....If it&#39;s a hassle to get you&#39;re trailer in let me know and I&#39;ll drag mine along. I put the license on my app.

Scott

[Speckmisser]

I don&#39;t think so, Paul. I think they&#39;re mostly concerned about what people are driving in the hills...not so much what they are sleeping in.

But just to be sure, make sure you have your insurance and registration info when you check in. I&#39;ll be sure to ask about that at my meeting with Barbara, so at least she&#39;ll be prepared. You&#39;re not the only one to ask similar questions.

Also, for you other guys. If, by chance, you end up driving to the hunt in something that you didn&#39;t put on your sheet... make sure you have all the proper paperwork with you. Registration, insurance card, and current tags.

[reddog5]

Lucky me. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banana-man-yeah.gif I only have to drive about 45 min to get there!! I will be there at 9A.M.

[Speckmisser]

I&#39;m seeing a trend here...

How many, besides me, are more than five hours out of Tejon?

By the way, Rancho... methinks Mapquest has lied to you. Even though you are, technically, a little south of me, you&#39;ve still got quite a ways to go. I pushed it with a stop for breakfast last year, and it still took a little over 6 hours. And almost all of my trip was freeway. I don&#39;t putt along either.

[Hogskin]

http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-dancin-red.gif I&#39;m about an hour or so away.

[gwhunter69]

I am coming from Sacramento, so I am more than 5 hours away. I will driving down to Bubba&#39;s in The Bathroom (Los Banos) Thursday night though. But, we&#39;ll still be 5 hours away.

[Rancho Loco]

Originally posted by Speckmisser@Apr 29 2004, 11:56 AM
By the way, Rancho... methinks Mapquest has lied to you....
I dunno... http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cross-fingers.gif

I actually punched in downtown Santa Cruz for the starting point, so I need to add a half hour on that...And it has me going over Pacheco pass to I5, and I might blast down 101 and take the James Dean Death Road over to Bake-O and go from there...

Oh! So many possibilities... http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-dancin-red.gif

I&#39;m actually worried about you chomping at getting out there so early, Speck...
I was hoping the hogs wouldn&#39;t scatter so fast. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-ugly-lol-bashing-sign.gif

[TMAN]

Speck-
I live 32.4 miles from Tejon Headquarters. If there is anything I can do to help get things situated, please let me know. I can be there as early as necessary on the 21st. Heck- I will be there the evening of the 20th if it means getting to hunt earlier. Are we not allowed on the ranch until everyone shows up? I got my truck inspected this past weekend, so I&#39;m good to go. I can hardly wait! -Tony

[hronk]

I&#39;m about 4hrs out....hronk

[Speckmisser]

Rancho,

From the sounds of things, based on the last two PORs, you WANT me to get in there early and scatter the hogs.

Actually, though, I&#39;m not really the one pushing for early. That would be Barbara, and the concern is more that we get everybody processed in early in the day, so that no one has to wait around at the office to process latecomers. I&#39;ve already been alerted that it&#39;s possible that at least one hunter will be arriving after 1900... and I&#39;m not sure how we&#39;re gonna deal with that.

As far as how early we&#39;re allowed on the Ranch...

As I said, I&#39;ve never been early for a POR, but the "official" start time has always been noon on Friday. That said, I know that when I arrived at noon last March, most of the crowd was already there and in the woods. So I&#39;m guessing that as soon as your paperwork is processed, you&#39;ll be allowed to go to the gate. Of course, one of the details we&#39;re (Barbara and I) are still ironing out is who will be manning the gate. That&#39;s one of the reasons I&#39;m trying to get consensus on the arrival times.

For those who live close and are offering assistance... stay tuned. I may very well take you up on that after I have a chance to talk to Barbara and get the details squared away.

[Eric Mayer]

I&#39;m going to be up there shooting squirrels and hanging out to meet people on Friday, so I might be able to help out some. Keep me informed.

Hronk, it will be good to see you up there!

Eric A. Mayer http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-cool-shades-down.gif

[Rancho Loco]

Earlier the better for me....

I&#39;ll be waiting at the gate for you anyhoo...

[Mel Carter]

Just want to wish you guys the best of luck, have a fun and safe hunt http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif Wish I was joining you guys, hopefully we can get another trip together sometime if this one goes off good. Again, good luck! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-2drunks-singing.gif

[wmidbrook]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
I&#39;ll be shooting a 50cal. muzzleloader[/b] I&#39;m going to be bringing my .50 cal muzzleloader too along with a .30-06 for Sunday in case I whimp out for the last day... http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-sideways-laff-aqua.gif It&#39;d be a hoot to bag one with the front-stuffer for sure.

Anyway, <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
I&#39;m going to be up there shooting squirrels ...[/b]. Would that be on the Tejon or close to it? Would be interested in doing some ground squirreling midday Friday too.

I&#39;m going to be down there by 10 a.m Friday to get setup...

Is anyone bringing a giant BBQ? I&#39;d bring close to a case of very good venison bratwurst for a big group dinner or lunch if we&#39;ve got the capacity to grill for lots of people.

Surely between all of us we could have some great game feeds for Friday/Saturday nights especially if someone&#39;s got a big grill. I&#39;m sure we could all bring enough charcoal to keep it stoked up for grilling whatever.

[bighorn67]

Remember guys. Unless you have one of the Tejon leases you can&#39;t shoot ground squirrels or any varmints. Only pigs.

Dave

[prohunter]

how do we know if our insurance apps were recieved?

[ozstriker22]

I pick up my Weatherby 300 Win Mag TODAY! I know it&#39;s not much time to practice... but beggars can&#39;t be choosers. Also going to pack a .44 for close encounters of the porky kind. I&#39;ll have my broken-ass 30-06 in the truck for no reason other than to have SOMETHING to shoot if something bad happens to my Weatherby or it&#39;s scope (like me falling on it).

We&#39;ll be in a greyish-brown 4x4 Ford Explorer with Tinted windows and Flow-Masters.

Sleeping in a little pup tent. I plan on being outside my tent for most of the trip anyways!

Trophy pig?

I&#39;m like a fat man on a diet diggin through a dumpster... I will take any old, toothless, three legged, one eyed, stinkin, filthy, sorry-excuse-for-an-already-dead-pig, PIG that I can get my Cross Hairs on!

Of course, As this WILL be my first SUCCESSFUL big game hunt, I&#39;ll have a flask with Johnny Walker Black Label tucked away in my day pack... for that "First shot, Shot" if you know what i mean!

Jesse

[reddog5]

ITS MAY 1ST!!! Man... i thought it would never get here. I am countin down the days........ http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banana-man-yeah.gif

[Eric Mayer]

Originally posted by bighorn67@Apr 30 2004, 10:36 AM
Remember guys. Unless you have one of the Tejon leases you can&#39;t shoot ground squirrels or any varmints. Only pigs.

Dave
Yep, I&#39;m the opposite of everyone. I&#39;m not shooting pigs, but I am shooting squirrels.

http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-shootin-green.gif

Eric A. Mayer http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-cool-shades-down.gif

[fairchase]

Speck,
I&#39;m more than 5 hrs. away from the ranch, infact I&#39;m looking at about 13 hrs. drive time.
Did I mention I&#39;m ready! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-hitting-self.gif

[TMAN]

OK. The truck has been fire inspected and is full of gas. Today I went to the range to sight in my &#39;06 and practice a little with the .44. Is it the 21st yet?! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pig-laughing.bmp http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-shootin-green.gif

[Rancho Loco]

I just got back from checking zero on my &#39;06....(And shooting my Commie gun for the first time)

heheheh...Here piggy piggy... http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-devil.gif

[Speckmisser]

Dang, Rancho... look how far you missed the little square! How are you gonna drill a pig in the vitals and you can&#39;t even get all three bullets into the little square? http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-rolleyes-green.gif

Fairchase, I thought you were in Idaho... are you flying down, or driving? What&#39;s your ETA on the 21st?

Prohunter, if your check was cashed, the insurance app was received. If not, you need to call Bob Boggs (I put his number on here somewhere) and ask what&#39;s up.

Yeah, it&#39;s counting down! Next Monday, I&#39;ll be sitting at the Tejon office ironing out logistics. Two weeks after that, I&#39;ll be kicking back in my chair, writing up another Tejon hog hunt report! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-dancin-red.gif

[Rancho Loco]

You know...I&#39;ve been kinda having a problem with those little squares.

Not with the targets I get...As you can see, I can get pretty close to those little squares if I&#39;m lucky enough.. It&#39;s with the pigs.

Try as I might, I can&#39;t seem to get the hogs to stand still long enough to draw a little square on them, so&#39;s I know where to aim at.

Any sugestions? http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-confused-yellow.gif

[fairchase]

Speck, I&#39;m driving down the Owens Valley... 12 hrs. to Lancaster on the 20th. It&#39;s not too bad, drive-nap-drive and I&#39;m there. If I can roll out of the motel, I&#39;ll be waiting for the gate to open on the 21st.

Hey here&#39;s a thought, I work for Powerbar/ Nestle, can I bring down some Power Bars for everybody at registration? A couple of energy bars in all our backpacks might be nice when we&#39;re dog tired from carrying hogs out of the steep and deep?

[Rancho Loco]

Speckmisser promissed to carry mine out.. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-confused-yellow.gif

[karstic]

Originally posted by fairchase@May 3 2004, 08:44 PM
Hey here&#39;s a thought, I work for Powerbar/ Nestle, can I bring down some Power Bars for everybody at registration? A couple of energy bars in all our backpacks might be nice when we&#39;re dog tired from carrying hogs out of the steep and deep?
Cool! Ham Slam SWAG!!!

[Speckmisser]

Originally posted by Rancho Loco@May 3 2004, 08:48 PM
Speckmisser promissed to carry mine out.. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-confused-yellow.gif
Rancho, I told you not to eat the moldy tacos! You been hallucinating again! Of course, that also explains why you used a pencil to poke those holes in the target.

Fairchase, I LOVE Power Bars, so bring &#39;em on! It&#39;s the perfect thing to control that sugar low when I forget my lunch in camp. That would be pretty cool. Does Nestle make the Snickers PowerBars, or is that the M&M guys?

[fairchase]

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Does Nestle make the Snickers PowerBars, or is that the M&M guys?[/b]
No that&#39;s not us... We make Performance Bars, Harvest, Pria, Protien Plus, Power Bites, and Prower Gel etc... I&#39;ll probably stay away from the chocolate coated bars because they don&#39;t pack well if it&#39;s warm. Lots of good energy though.

[One Track]

Now if these dang Albacore would move up the line a little bit more, I would have a bunch of smoked albie for y&#39;all.

Powerbars are good.

[Hogskin]

Say, I was looking at my hamslam info sheet and it says, "NO open fires are permitted." Does that mean no campfires?

Also, somebody posted a map to the gate awhile back. Anybody got a link?

[Speckmisser]

We can have fires in a fire ring. I think Brent and his group brought one last time we did a May hunt. I can&#39;t remember who brought the fire ring in March.

It&#39;s looking like the fire is gonna be more a social focal point than a necessity this year.

[One Track]

I think campfires are technically forbidden. My first few trips up there, I asked permission to use a portable enclosed fire ring. They were cool with that.

[pitdog]

I&#39;ll bring the Maytag and some cedar. They didn&#39;t have a problem with the Maytag last POR.

Is it time yet???

[deadducks]

Can someone clear up this vehicle fire inspection thing for me. I don&#39;t recall reading about it in any of the paperwork we got about the hunt. We are driving in a F250 Diesel, reg. for everyday hwy driving.

Does this still need to be fire inspected? If so, do all CDF stations perform these tests? Do they give us a peice of paper that certifies the vehicle for entrance into Tejon? I don&#39;t want to get there and have any problems.

Thanks in advance for clearing this up.
Dan http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif

[Hogskin]

deadducks,

On page 1 of the "Hunting regulations on Tejon Ranch Company Lands" info it says under Part B of Vehicles, "Exhaust system inspection" "During the fire season the Kern County FD must inspect and approve the exhaust system of each vehicle before it may enter Tejon lands...."

So as I understand it, even our daily drivers have to be inspected & approved. Hope this helps.

[deadducks]

Thanks a lot. Man I need to take a reading class. You know how it is. You only hear and read what we want to. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-hitting-self.gif

I am getting very antzy for this hunt. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-gunfighter-yellow.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-shootin-green.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-jhp-rocks.gif

[Hogskin]

You & me both, brother. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-dancin-red.gif

[gwhunter69]

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Does this still need to be fire inspected? If so, do all CDF stations perform these tests? Do they give us a peice of paper that certifies the vehicle for entrance into Tejon? I don&#39;t want to get there and have any problems.[/b]

All you do is swing by the fire station, which is real close and the come out and give it a 5 minute or less inspection. If you have a diesel, they immediately sign off on it. They give you a sticker for your window after the inspection. I think it is good for the year.

[One Track]

The inspection takes a few minutes. The station is only a few hundred yards from the south gate. They will check your tail pipe for excessive heat, and will check under the hood for a gas or exhaust leak. They will also want to see a shovel and a fire extinguisher.

[wmidbrook]

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They will also want to see a shovel and a fire extinguisher.[/b]

They will &#39;want&#39; to see, but is it regulation or a requirement? Does a shovel + 5+ gal&#39;s of water work like up in eastern OR like Mauhleur NF?

[wmidbrook]

Any recommendations on restaraunts for breakfast or dinners there in Lebec for those of us arriving Thursday night? Accomodations (both motels & park/sleep spots)? And watering holes?

[Speckmisser]

The fire extinguisher and shovel are technically requirements. The first time I went, I didn&#39;t have the extinguisher, but nobody noticed. Save yourself a potential hassle though and toss a small ABC fire extinguisher in your truck... it&#39;s a good idea anyway. And if you use your vehicle for much off-road stuff, you&#39;ve probably already got a shovel aboard.

A solid first-aid kit is also a real good idea, since it&#39;s a pretty good hop from Tejon to any major medical facility. In addition to the dangers from skinning knives, twisted ankles, firearms, and boar tusks, Mr. No-shoulders will probably be out and about in the daytime. A snakebite kit could be a good thing to include in that first aid rig.

Other items to consider...

Drinking water - Lots of it. Stay hydrated! Remember... piss clear (or as you military guys probably heard in survival school, maintain CCU... clear, copious urine). Other beverages are great, particularly the adult kind. But those are for after the hunt, and they do next to nothing to restore body fluids.

Knife sharpeners - If you&#39;ve skinned a hog before, you&#39;ll understand. If not, well, trust me on this one. You&#39;ll want to keep it sharp, and that&#39;s a trick when cutting through pig skin. I usually also carry spare skinning knives.

LOTS OF ROPE - When you drop that big boy down in a hell-hole, you have a choice. You can go down there and drag that sucker up by sheer manpower... or you can drop down a couple hundred yards of rope and drag him up with horsepower. Seriously, you won&#39;t be over-equipped with 1000 feet of rope.

A sense of humor - Hey, everybody doesn&#39;t tag out. There&#39;s no sense getting bent out of shape if you don&#39;t get your hog. Keep on grinning, and enjoy the fellowship and experience... as well as the opportunity to hunt one of the nicest pieces of property in CA.

There&#39;s more, but most of it is common sense. And it&#39;s not like you&#39;re trapped at Tejon. If you run out of vital stuff, you can always run over to Lebec.

[fpscabs]

Rancho
Just print the squares on some sticker backed paper, much faster to get on the http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pig-laughing.bmp

Let me get this straight...you guys are looking for a campfire to keep you warm in the cool 85 degree nights http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-hair-raisin-blue.gif

or was the campfire there to get warm after getting out of the hot tubs OneTrack is bringing with his girls http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-dancin-red.gif

[spectr17]

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Save yourself a potential hassle though and toss a small ABC fire extinguisher in your truck[/b]

I wouldn&#39;t recomend a little extinguisher for anything because by the time you walk your way into a vehicle fire the small amount of powder runs out about the wrong time. Seen it many times. Get a big one and keep it handy, don&#39;t bury it in the rear of your back seat or trunk. The faster you get on that fire the better. I have mine within arms reach from my seat in case I&#39;m pinned in. Seen that a few times also. Also get it inspected every year. One time I grabbed an extuingisher and waded in on a fire and a small puff of powder was all I got. Then it was "Feet don&#39;t fail me now" mode.

Most docs now say for snake bite just get the nearest ER. No tourniquet, ice etc. Snake bite kits are a waste of money IMO. Have someone kill and bring the snake if you can but most are rattler bites here in SoCal. Careful handling the snake too, them fangs work even when the snake is dead.

[Speckmisser]

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I wouldn&#39;t recomend a little extinguisher for anything because by the time you walk your way into a vehicle fire the small amount of powder runs out about the wrong time.[/b]

If it&#39;s too big to handle with the little extinguisher, then somebody&#39;s on their own. The only vehicle fire I&#39;ve had to put out was a little electrical deal and the small extinguisher I had worked fine.

Of course, I won&#39;t argue that bigger is better, but I honestly don&#39;t consider mine to be survival gear. It&#39;s there to be legal, and in a pinch for those stupid little camp-side things that sometimes happen.

At any rate... to the gist of it... the extinguisher is required so you should have something.

As to snakes... if I can find a rattler over 3&#39;, he&#39;s gonna need a Speckmisser-bite kit. I&#39;m still looking for that new hatband.

[TMAN]

Wmidbrook-
There is not a whole lot in Lebec. There is a good sized truck stop with a 24/7 restaraunt. I think there is a mexican restaraunt, Jack In The Box, and an AM/PM. Not sure of any bars. I think the nearest motels are in Gorman or a wide spot in the road known as Grapevine. Both have restaraunts. Grapevine has a Denny&#39;s, truck stops, and fast food joints. I don&#39;t think there are any bars. Grapevine is sort of divided into sections, Laval Rd. and Grapevine. There is a motel right at the base of the mountain before you start up toward the ranch coming from the North. There is a Mexican restaraunt there that might have a bar. I am pretty sure there is a new motel at Laval Rd. Check your tejon paperwork. I think they recommend a couple of motels. Hope this helps. -Tony

[wmidbrook]

It is definately a good idea to have some means of putting out a fire fast...whether a blanket, shovel, McCloud tool or water. But, it&#39;s hard to beat an extinguisher alright--more "firepower". Just suprised that it&#39;s Tejon policy....guess too many folks park with their catalytic converters nested in dried out grasses these days to leave things to chance. Maybe insurance rates are adjusted favorably with such a policy.

Can&#39;t say I&#39;d ever thought of keeping an extinguisher within arms reach in a vehicle. That&#39;s one more risk managed alright.

And I may be wishing I had bought a spool of rope after it&#39;s all said and done. Guess my legs and pack frame might get a work-out (I hope). Don&#39;t forget flashlights either~!

I haven&#39;t gone the Warne winch route yet, but do always have a tow strap, hefty come-along, jack, saw, ax and shovel when 4x4&#39;ing along with spare tire, & a can or two of spare air along with an assortment of tools.

First aid kits are always a must along with the compass, water filtering device, water, flashlight, sharpener, spare knife, lense cleaning tissue and &#39;guttin&#39; gloves&#39; amongst other things in my day pack.

Anyway, it&#39;ll be nice to be there in a couple weeks. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbs-up-ani.gif

[prohunter]

With this fire season already under way campfires might be out of the question. I am not going to light one unless the weather changes. Wildland fires can get real expensive!

Speck,
what if we bring a different vehicle. Where should I send info too??

[One Track]

That Mexican restaurant in Lebec is awesome. It looks like a hole in the wall from the outside. But, inside the food and service are incredible. When we go to the scales at noon to weight our hogs, we&#39;ll drive in for some carne asada.

Yes, the grass grows high in the middle of the two tracks. You will smell it burning under your truck. It&#39;s an unsettling feeling, even after passing inspection.

MId - I bought a 600 yd. spool of 1/4 inch rope at Harbor Freight for $19.99. Unbelievably, this little quarter inch stuff works. I&#39;ve given it the ultimate hog pullin&#39; test. After a few hogs, you have to throw it away. But, for $20, it&#39;s way worth the investment. I would have paid $100 for somebody to hump out my last hog. Nasty.

Oh yah!

15 days!

[Speckmisser]

Prohunter,

If you bring a different vehicle, you&#39;re SOL!!!

OK, not really. Bring all the insurance and registration info with you when you check in. I&#39;ll probably be working the desk with Barbara, and we&#39;ll get you squared away. Don&#39;t send anything else at this point, since I&#39;m gonna be taking all the paperwork I have now (and the checks) to Tejon on Monday. That&#39;s right boys.. validate your checking accounts, since the checks will be going to the bank next week.

Bill, I&#39;ll probably be checking out that Mexican restaurant and hotel on Sunday night, so I&#39;ll provide some recon after the fact. I&#39;m heading down there on the bike, so I&#39;ll be READY for a good drink and a soft bed by the time I hit the 5 hour mark. Then again, the way I ride, it may only be 3 hours. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-cool-shades-down.gif

As far as rope, I haven&#39;t used it for this purpose, but parachute cord has a breakpoint of over 300 pounds (if I remember correctly). It stretches like crazy, but it&#39;ll haul a normal-sized hog out of a hole easier than your arms will. You can get a 1000 spool from Cabelas for $35. Shop around (try US Cavalry) and you may find it cheaper.

I have several hundred feet of 3/8" cotton-poly rope that will haul an elk. It costs a little more, but if you shop it out you can find a good price. The first time you have a hog down in a Tejon Hell-hole, it&#39;ll MORE than pay for itself.

[wmidbrook]

TMan, OneTrack, and Speckmisser, thanks for the info. The Mex place sounds good to me.

I figure I had better get a good night&#39;s rest on Thursday night in case I run a sleep deficit over the weekend.

Speaking of rope....On a commercial fishing vessel (longliner) up in AK, we shot a feral cow on one of the aleutian islands. From the boat on anchor, the downed cow was 1/2 mile up a hill. We used 5/8ths inch nylon (&#39;cause it sinks) ran it up to the cow, put the other end in the hydraulic line hauler.....man that rope would stretch almost pencil thin and then the cow would almost fly thru the air about 50 ft....this went on &#39;til the cow got to the beach and then it was smooth haulin&#39; her in. Swung a boom out over the water, hauled it onboard and started to butcher. Gosh, it was funny watching that cow periodically slingshot towards the boat in 50 foot hops.

[One Track]

That would be a sight.

[prohunter]

Why the rope (forgive my stupidness)? Can&#39;t you cut up a hog & pack it out? Or is it to help pull people out of the steep canyons?

[Speckmisser]

Originally posted by prohunter@May 8 2004, 07:16 AM
Why the rope (forgive my stupidness)? Can&#39;t you cut up a hog & pack it out? Or is it to help pull people out of the steep canyons?
One quick answer... Yes.

Seriously, you can certainly cut up your hog and pack it out if you want. That&#39;s one approach. Cutting up a critter in the field is kinda a pain, though. I find it much easier to do my cutting in camp, with a cold beer and a meat pole.

Since there are lots of roads at Tejon, a couple hundred yards of rope makes retrieval much easier. If you can get close with the vehicle, just tie off and drag away.

Last year, I wasn&#39;t in a place where we could get the truck in, and it took some SERIOUS humping to get that fat sow out of the hell hole (Thanks again, Scott... I definitely owe you!). But the year before, my brother and I had hogs down in the canyon... with the winch and a whole lot of rope, the recovery was a relative breeze. In my opinion, it&#39;s definitely the right way to go.

Other suggestions include a sled or dragging blanket. Heavy canvas works good, and rolls up for easy carrying. Anything to break the friction between the hog body and the ground would make the drag a lot easier. They just don&#39;t drag all that easy. I have a plastic game sled that I forgot to bring last year. Sure would&#39;ve made that trip easier. You can believe I won&#39;t forget it again! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-hitting-self.gif

[Hogskin]

Speck,

You&#39;ve got mail.

[Speckmisser]

Got it, Frogskin. And now you got mail too.

DANGIT!!!! Isn&#39;t it May 21 yet?

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[bighorn67]

2 weeks!! Can&#39;t wait. SUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!

[Speckmisser]

OK fellas!

Just got home last night from meeting with Barbara at Tejon.

First of all, the weather was awesome! If we can have a couple of days like yesterday for our hunt, it&#39;ll be perfect. Nice, hazy/clear day with temps in the low 60s at mid-day.

We covered a lot of info, and I&#39;m sure I won&#39;t remember it all. BUT... here&#39;s what I do remember.

If you are hunting with non-JHO members, make sure they get this information.

Check-in:

We&#39;re gonna start checking folks in at 1000 on May 21. We&#39;d like to have everyone done and ready to go to the gate by 1200. The process will be very similar to the regular PORs, so many of you are already familiar with how it works. Meet at the Tejon Headquarters (Ft. Tejon exit from I-5).

JHO Pro-Staffers will be manning the gates, and WE WILL BE THE ONLY WAY IN OR OUT after check-in. So far I have confirmed two likely late arrivals. Barbara and I will be in touch with these folks to make sure they get signed in and through the gate.

IF YOU DON&#39;T THINK YOU WILL BE THERE BY NOON... please contact me NOW and let me know so we can make arrangements. Barbara will not wait all day to sign you in, and if your paperwork isn&#39;t done, you won&#39;t hunt. Maybe if you&#39;re lucky, you can get signed in on Saturday. LET ME KNOW NOW, and arrangements can probably be made. Otherwise... you take your chances. My phone number is on the application paperwork, or you can email me.

Weigh-in:
In accordance with Tejon rules, all hogs are to be weighed in. Since there are so many of us, the ranch has agreed to provide a weighmaster on Saturday and Sunday. Weigh-in periods will be between 1100 and 1300.

For those who are hunting Sunday evening, we&#39;ll need to arrange to have a scale in camp to weigh your hogs. Does anyone have a good scale? We&#39;ll need it until the end of the hunt on Sunday night.

Check Out:
OK, dig this PLEASE!

I am responsible for making sure everyone who signed in gets signed out. Since I and my "agents" will be the only ones with keys, you will have to go through one of us to get off the ranch. We&#39;ll adjust the logistics for this as necessary. Please don&#39;t leave (or try to leave) without contacting one of us. If Sunday night comes, and there&#39;s no checkmark beside your name, a search party will be organized and there will be some very unhappy searchers if you are not located. We&#39;ll be even more unhappy if it turns out you were home, sitting in front of the TV while we were out there looking for you.

As to check-out time....
If you are finished hunting, please plan to leave by around 1400 on Sunday afternoon. Those who have not tagged out can hunt until the end of shoot time on Sunday. However, let&#39;s try to be considerate and keep someone posted on WHERE you&#39;ll be hunting. That way, if you&#39;re the last one in the woods, someone can try to find you, and help you get that big boar out of the hellhole.

One of the JHO staffers (likely me) will have to stay until EVERYONE is accounted for and checked out of the gate.

Finally, a little admin here. According to the April 30 list from Bob Boggs, the following people are NOT insured. If you are on this list, and know you sent Boggs your money, then you need to contact their offices and find out what&#39;s going on. If you have NOT sent your money, then you may want to get with FedEx and send it of NOW. No insurance= No hunting.

Bogg&#39;s Number is: 714-777-4675

So here&#39;s the list. Sorry to use real names, but it&#39;s the only way to make sure I&#39;m reaching the right folks. If your hunting buddy is on this list, LET HIM KNOW.
Fritz Schmidt
Joe Larkin
Jesse Murillo
Bill Middlebrook
Vincent Gianetto
Greg Browne
Kenneth McShane
Stephan Regenfuss
Joseph Patton

[wmidbrook]

Speck, I mailed that in a month ago and my check has been processed. What&#39;s Bob&#39;s number?

[wmidbrook]

Also, a quick question under the Vehicle section of page 1 in the Hunting Regs On Tejon Ranch Company Lands.

What is a "currently checked fire extinguisher"?

Is there a certification a fire extinguisher must have or go thru just prior to entering Tejon Lands?

FYI for those reading this, you can also get your vehicle inspected @ the Mettler and Arvin Fire Kern Country Fire departments between 8:00 a.m - 5:00 p.m....might be less of a line.

[fairchase]

What gives? I sent my Insurance in appx a month ago too. Number please, anybody. Thanks

[wmidbrook]

Bob must have had a seperate pile of received paperwork that had not fully circled back to Babara&#39;s list.

I called Babara and she just got a new batch of names. I&#39;m squared away with insurance as are probably others on that list too.

...maybe we were the straglers http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-ren.gif relatively speaking of course

[Speckmisser]

I added the number to the original post.

Make sure you call, especially if you think you&#39;re paid.

And if you&#39;re NOT paid... GET ON IT!

Oh.. and PLEASE. As I&#39;ve said several times already... call me rather than Barbara. She&#39;s great, and she&#39;ll help as much as she can, but the agreement was made that SHE wouldn&#39;t have to manage our hunt for us. Her phone stays busy enough with her own projects.

[karstic]

Originally posted by Speckmisser@May 11 2004, 07:01 AM
OKFinally, a little admin here. According to the April 30 list from Bob Boggs, the following people are NOT insured. If you are on this list, and know you sent Boggs your money, then you need to contact their offices and find out what&#39;s going on. If you have NOT sent your money, then you may want to get with FedEx and send it of NOW. No insurance= No hunting.

Bogg&#39;s Number is: 714-777-4675

So here&#39;s the list. Sorry to use real names, but it&#39;s the only way to make sure I&#39;m reaching the right folks. If your hunting buddy is on this list, LET HIM KNOW. Stephan Regenfuss

I just called the insurance agent and she confirmed that I was on the list and that she was faxing the info over to Tejon

[One Track]

Speck:

Thanks for the update.

Generally, we&#39;ll have a hog or two to weigh in around noon on Saturday and or Sunday. Then, we will head to Lebec to gas up and eat lunch. Gassing up is usually a necessary evil at least once during the weekend.

Will the staffer working the scale be able to let people in and out of the gate while he is on duty Sat. and Sun. 1100 -1300?

Thank you!

[Buck-eye]

Speck,

I spoke with Bob, and he said that Barbara&#39;s last update was 30 April. I was on that list as well. Must be a type-o or something. My number is 1677.

Buck-eye

[fairchase]

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I added the number to the original post.[/b]
Thanks, I have been known to miss the obvious every now and then. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-rolleyes-green.gif It dosen&#39;t help when your seeing red http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-devil.gif I&#39;ll give Bob Boggs a call... and to think I even wrote "JHO Ham Slam" on my money order so that It would be extra clear...Oh well.

[gwhunter69]

Jesse has mailed his in as well, but I let him know he is on the S-List.... http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-rolleyes-green.gif

[fairchase]

The insurance list appears to be incorrect in regards to at least my name. Bob Boggs got my payment, check #1643. I hope it&#39;s this simple for the others on the list.
Thanks again Speckmisser for all the long hours and hard work, http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif your the man.

[prohunter]

well what do you know...my brother is on that list! And he&#39;s driving!

[hronk]

I have a spring-loaded scale that I will bring along. It&#39;s 300lb capacity and has a furmula printed on it for live weight, field dressed and/or meat yielded....Do I need to bring a large (150qt capacity) cooler for the quarters or is there cold storage or a cooler on the site.....hronk

[fpscabs]

I know my Boggs payment was made late, and I know Joe Larkin has his canceled check. Guess Bogg&#39;s phone will be busy tomorrow http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-hair-raisin-blue.gif

[prohunter]

my brother send he sent money order 2 months ago! yeah his phone will be ringing tomorrow

[grtwythunter]

hronk

Bring an ice chest. There&#39;s no cold locker at the ranch.

See ya there.
Scott

[bubba]

Yes, mine was sent about a month ago and was cashed on 4/26. The number on my check is 1676, whatever that means.

[Speckmisser]

Hey guys,

Barbara said that the list they receive is not always accurate. That&#39;s why I wanted you guys to confirm. It would suck to get all hyped up for this hunt, and then find something stupid like this to keep you out.

Just trying stay pro-active... address the problems BEFORE they become problems.

Hronk, will you and/or your scale be able to stay at the ranch until Sunday night? That&#39;s when we&#39;ll need it... to collect data from the last couple of hunters. I can&#39;t remember how far away you live. If you need to leave earlier, I&#39;d be glad to hold the scale and fed-ex it back to you after I get home.

As Scott said, you will definitely need a cooler big enough to hold your pig. The only facilities we&#39;ll have available will be porta-potties in the camping area, and the meat poles. Everything else is up to us.

Fairchase, if you need any logistics support on the local end, sing out. You get the Long-Distance award, so if you need any help with arrangements let me know.

Finally, as to hotels...

If you&#39;re coming from the north on Thursday night, I&#39;d strongly recommend getting your hotel at one of the Bakersfield Exits (Hwy 46 or 58). That still leaves you an hour or so from the ranch, but you have plenty of time to arrive by 1000. The prices are a lot more reasonable than the hotels at the Grapevine. Rack rate at the Best Western on Laval Road (about 20 minutes from the ranch) was $75/night for a SINGLE! The hotels back at Hwy 58 were advertising between $26 and $35 a night. To me, that makes it worth the extra drive time.

[hronk]

Speck: The scale is yours as long as you need it. You can send it whenever. We will probably be some of the late ones unless we both fill out early. See you next Friday.....hronk

[Speckmisser]

OK, from your responses my "potentially" uninsured list is down to Vincent Gianetto and Kenneth McShane.

Prohunter, Vincent is your bro, right? Has he been able to call and verify his insurance?

I don&#39;t know Kenneth... anybody?

[prohunter]

brother called boggs today and has his confirmation number.

[bubba]

Just tried calling Bob Boggs to confirm. He got pissed off and hung up on me. I guess he got tired of people calling him...hmmm.

[Speckmisser]

Jesse,

When you say he got "pissed off", how do you mean? That&#39;s not very professional, nor is it a good way to encourage repeat business. I&#39;d think he&#39;d be happy to have so many people sending him money. Maybe he just thinks he can take cash without having to deal with customers? http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-rolleyes-green.gif

Has he done this to anyone else?

[bubba]

He said," I&#39;m going to break my new phone and rip the cord out of the wall", there was some inaudible mumbling/griping in the background and &#39;click&#39;.

My check was cashed, so I&#39;m assuming I&#39;m on the paid list, just couldn&#39;t confirm it.

[superduty]

bubba, I hope this isn&#39;t true. It sounds like he has been taking lessons from the cable people. I&#39;ve been running rabbit ears for three years now because of it. I have found more productive time now adays than sitting with 400 channels and a remote. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-sideways-laff-aqua.gif Just proves my point on where all this is going. He is there to provide a service wich by the way might have some one on one with a client every now and again and he gets frustrated but still cashes your check. He obviously doesn&#39;t understand for one second the feeling of a hunt and what it has to offer. He has the ability to pull the plug on every one of our hunts and it sounds like he doesn&#39;t care. THAT SUCKS! Sorry guys, just get alittle passionate now and again. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-gunfighter-yellow.gif

[karstic]

Speck/Jesse
When I called the number you had listed a female answered and I asked for Bob Boggs and about the check and she said she was the one handling the Tejon Ranch stuff. She put me on hold for a few seconds then came on and told me she received the check and was going fax the info over (I assume to Tejon Ranch). She was very polite and courteous.

[Speckmisser]

Hey all,

I don&#39;t know who John Walker is hunting with, but I need to get in touch with him before the hunt. Can anyone get him to send me an email, or provide me with contact info for him?

Thanks.

ALSO... this is last call for anyone who doesn&#39;t think they can be at the gate by 1000 on Friday, May 21. If you, or anyone in your party cannot be there at this time, I NEED TO KNOW!

This hunt is not the same as the POR, where the Tejon staff operates the gates. On this hunt, there will be a couple of keys in our group (one for me, and one or two distributed to trusted volunteers). If you want in or out, one of us will have to open the gate to let you go.

When we finish the check-in (appx 1200), I&#39;m opening the gate to let the crew in and then I will be heading to the camping area, six miles away. If you are NOT there, and if you haven&#39;t made arrangements, you will be on your own until one of us comes back to the gate... possibly AFTER hunting hours on Friday night.

I hate to make this sound so dire, but I don&#39;t think it&#39;s too much to ask. If you or anyone in your party don&#39;t think you can make it on time, PLEASE drop me an email NOW so we can make sure you get checked in and so there is someone available to get you through the gate.

[gwhunter69]

Well, I sure a complaint was filed with Barbara about Bob. I am sure he is not the only insurance agent in the world who can handle Tejon&#39;s business. He is just another jerkoff with no customer service sense as far as I am concerned...

[hronk]

Question!!!!!.... My partner might have to back out at the last minute due to his dads heart surgery last week and some complications. If he doesn&#39;t make it I&#39;ll bring my truck with reg. and proof of insurance... I just checked out my exhaust system and the only leak is at the back end of the muffler, A little hole in the middle. I was told by a mech. that this is a drain for condensation and should not be plugged....True or false. Can I just insert a screw to be legal. Thanks....hronk

[Speckmisser]

Hronk,

Bummer about your partner&#39;s dad. Hope that&#39;s all going well.

I can&#39;t really answer your question about the exhaust. My guess is, if it doesn&#39;t catch the fireguy&#39;s rag on fire, it&#39;ll be OK. But you may want to contact CDF or a local fire department and ask them for an official response.

[deadducks]

I have started my OFFICIAL countdown.

7 LONG days, and 12 LONG hours before camp set-up. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif

Man I am JOANZ&#39;N for this hunt. Now I know what an addict feels like.

Is there a 12 step program for hunters? http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-gunfighter-yellow.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-shootin-green.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-jhp-rocks.gif

[Speckmisser]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
Is there a 12 step program for hunters?[/b]
Yupp. 12 steps into the nearest woods! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-gunfighter-yellow.gif

I know what you mean about jonzin&#39; though! I can&#39;t stand it. I was out in the gunroom today, moving stuff around in the safe, counting up my ammo, debating making up a fresh batch for the range this weekend... this waiting is killing me!

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[One Track]

Yes, it&#39;s called albacore fishing. I feel the same way. It can&#39;t get here quick enough.

[Rancho Loco]

Originally posted by Speckmisser@May 13 2004, 07:51 AM
ALSO... this is last call for anyone who doesn&#39;t think they can be at the gate by 1000 on Friday, May 21.
I&#39;ll be waiting on you, pal...

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[huntsndives]

Speckmisser,

I will not be able to check in at 10:00 on Friday. Everyone else in my group will be there though. I am hunting with the Carl Hultgren group. Let me know what I need to do to get in once I get up there. I&#39;m guessing I&#39;ll get there some time between 2-4.

Kenny

[Speckmisser]

Kenny, give me a call.

I kinda hate to do this on the list, but it&#39;s the best way to make sure ya&#39;ll have this number.

510-427-5567

If any of you guys need to contact me faster than email, this is the best way.

[Suzmar1997]

Hey Kenny, give me a call on my cell phone if you can.

[superduty]

Just alittle taste for your hungry mouths. Tejon South Side campground 4th of July last year. Mrs. Superduty at the door.

[superduty]

And of course, what were all after. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pig-laughing.bmp http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-shootin-green.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-dancin-red.gif

[superduty]

Anyone planning on going to the range this Sunday? For any of the locals in my area I will be trying to get up to Fish Canyon range this Sunday to confirm I haven&#39;t knocked anything out of wack. Anybody interested in joining in on slinging acouple 50 to 200yds out? If anybody is interested maybe I&#39;ll take the shotgun and shoot a round of 25 also. To any of you that are planning on not checking the gun before the hunt I got one word of advice, DON&#39;T. I missed several oportunities on a white tail hunt in Alabama because of it. DON&#39;T have the regrets I had. It only takes one or two rounds to be sure. I&#39;ve got to work tomorrow so I won&#39;t have the opportunity to do any scouting for next weekend&#39;s hunt but a fellow JHO&#39;er will be there and informed me he would drop me a line on where the pigs are hanging out. I will let you guys know as soon as I know. Good Luck to all the Ham Slamers. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pig-laughing.bmp http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-shootin-green.gif

[Speckmisser]

Thanks, SUperduty, for the updates AND for the pics to get us droolin&#39; that much more. Man, it&#39;s gonna be a LOOONNNGGG week until Friday!

When I sleep at night, I dream about hogs. Sometimes they&#39;re rooting in my backyard, and sometimes I&#39;m tracking them down Roadmisser Ridge. Is this a good sign? http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-idea-blu.gif

[rusman66]

Hey is that map they sell for tejon any good? Or do you just get in and drive around till you find somewhere good? I know some good spots in the past that others have shown me, but I might feel guilty bogarting their spots. You know the Onetrack to roadmisser ridge. Anyway I cant stand the wait. let&#39;s go!!

[grtwythunter]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
and sometimes I&#39;m tracking them down Roadmisser Ridge. Is this a good sign?[/b]

It&#39;s OK as long as you&#39;re not following them in your truck http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-sideways-laff-aqua.gif

Scott

[Speckmisser]

Scott,

I haven&#39;t had any bad dreams about the Roadmisser Ridge episode, so that&#39;s behind me now. Just dreams of hogs.

Went to the range for a while today. If I miss a hog, it won&#39;t be because of the rifle. Wish I&#39;d had the digital camera to take photos of the groups. I had 12 shots from the -06 in about a 2" cluster. My first group of four had two touching, one about 3/4" out, and a flyer about an inch and a half.

Also shot the .308, since I&#39;m hoping to use it this trip. The first few shots with 150 gr Winchester Supremes gave me a 2.5" group. Not so great. The rifle shoots mil-surp FMJs like a dream (close to MOA with occasional sub-MOA groups), so I know it&#39;s capable of more. I had a box of Remington Core-lokts, 180 gr so I figured, why not? WOW! That fancy rifle seems to LOVE cheap ammo!

Anyway...

On another note.... PAGING SCOTT HOUNSHELL!

I need you to verify your hunting license number before Friday!

Give me a call, or drop me an email ASAP.

[Rancho Loco]

I just got back from buying a "Speckmisser Signature" towstrap...Among other things for the trip - a coffee press included...

I just need to pick up some topo&#39;s, and lay in the food and I&#39;m set..

Waitin&#39; on Friday 0400!!! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banana-man-yeah.gif

[wmidbrook]

Are quads allowed @ Tejon?

The rules say use of 2 or 3 wheelers, motorcycles, and trail bikes are forbidden, but no mention of quads.

[One Track]

No quads WMid.

The count down begins. Time to start wading through the campin&#39; and huntin gear, get organized, figure out the eats, start working out, and try to focus on work while at work. That&#39;s the hardest part, focusing at work. I&#39;m not sure if it would be easier or more difficult without JHO. I can&#39;t remember if I was jonesin&#39; this bad for a hunt, before JHO.

License
TP
Water
Gun
Ammo
Money
Rope

That&#39;s all I really need. Not exactly sure how I end up filling the entire bed of my truck.
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[Speckmisser]

Bill,

As OneTrack said, no quads. Licensed/registered vehicles only.

OneTrack, you fill the rest of the truck with water and those ladies from the posters ya&#39;ll keep talking about. In that order...

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Yeah, Mudwalker will probably see this and beat the tar out of me again. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-hitting-self.gif

Dangit... isn&#39;t it time yet?

[reddog5]

Well i&#39;m all packed and ready.Been ready for about a week already! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-hitting-self.gif
Trigger finger has developed a little itch......

[Rancho Loco]

NWS Digital Forecast Data for 4 miles northeast of Frazier Park.
.Today...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 18 mph. High 74.
.Tonight...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 16 mph. Low 35.
.Monday...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 19 mph. High 70.
.Monday Night...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 15 mph. Low 35.
.Tuesday...Partly cloudy. South wind 17 mph. High 66.
.Tuesday Night...Partly cloudy. Southwest wind 14 mph. Low 33.
.Wednesday...Partly cloudy. West wind 17 mph. High 65.
.Thursday...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 16 mph. Low 33. High 63.
.Friday...Partly cloudy. West wind 13 mph. Low 35. High 62.
.Saturday...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 17 mph. Low 36. High 73.
.Sunday...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 18 mph.

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[Speckmisser]

And now.. to while away the hours...

A pome.

I thought that I might never see
a hog hiding &#39;neath an old oak tree
A tree that in the spring might wear
a nest of condors in her hair

Then I went to Tejon ranch
And saw no condors on a branch
But hogs I saw, that&#39;s no lie
And one of those hogs, he did die

"Well that was fun," is what I said.
To turn that piggie on his head
I would like to do it again
I didn&#39;t know how or when

But I booked again for March this time
and weather foul, is what I did find
I slipped and slid across the road
But desperately on, I did go

Perseverance pays, I was told
Hunting for hogs or mining gold
And in the dusk, the second day
A big ol&#39; sow got in my way

I ate her up, but longed for more
So in late spring, 2004
I&#39;m going back to badger pass
To kick a little piggie ....

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[fpscabs]

Shakespearemisser
That was truely the first POME I ever read. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-hitting-self.gif

I was nicely done.

[Rancho Loco]

The wait got to him...He done gone mad as a hatter.

[hronk]

Deadducks....Dan; I&#39;ll definitley be coming down alone. I&#39;ll leave here between 3-4am. Give me a call here at work. I&#39;m on swing shift thru Tues. and off on Weds/Thurs......hronk

[superduty]

Speck your POME was excellent! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-laugh-point-up-yellow.gif Well I went to the range today and found out I shoot about 50% acurate with the 480 Super Red Hawk. Don&#39;t have a friggin clue where the other 50% took off to at lasered 52yds. If I had had a spoter it might have been alittle easier. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-idea-blu.gif The 300 Short Action Ultra Mag was a different story though. At 52yds. one shot around 1" high dead center. At 100yds. around 1/2" high dead center two rounds same hole and hung her up. Shot three rounds total. Alittle too expensive to just play with after seeing that. Shot acouple of rounds with the wifes 280 Remington Express before the next line break and bailed. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pig-laughing.bmp http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-shootin-green.gif Here Piggy Piggy. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-devil.gif

[henriksson]

Speckmisser,

I am not going to guarantee that I will be there at 10:00 but I will be there before 12:00. Is that OK? Same for Scott.

[fpscabs]

SHakespearemisser
Forgot to ask, should I bring my construction light strand? 100&#39; long with 10 60 watt bulbs on it.

Phil, you have do so much, I will be happy to make a run a gate run around 11:30-12ish. You can go set up your camp or do what your need to do http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pig-laughing.bmp http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-shootin-green.gif

[fpscabs]

Not that I can follow your steps, but I made an addition to your prose. (or was that P-rose)

So thankful we are to thee
longing to find that oak tree
To bring us electric souls
looking for water holes

Many thanks cannot express
from us members’ of the Jess
We will gather for the Slam
and feast on some killer ham

Faces and names will merge as one
as we embrace the setting sun.
Tales of victory, tales of woe
will be shared as embers glow.

The night will wane with a snore
only to wake at that hour of four
Coffee will fill the air
as we seek that piggie lair

There are two to thank
as solid as any bank
each with a vision
and a special mission

One gives us a place to play
the other a hunting May
We are the branches that you see
JHO is the trunk of that tree

We will seek the beast
Some to the East
Some to the West
North, South for the rest

Under the banner of JHO
for allowing us the Show.
All gain from the viewing
for what we are doing.

I say Hear, Hear
those far and near
Give thanks to that Misser
Give thanks to that Jesse

I say again, raise your glass
and lets kick a little piggie ....

[Speckmisser]

Hey... go Fritzpeare! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-dancin-red.gif

I don&#39;t think you need to bring the light stand. We&#39;ll probably be OK with lanterns and such. With the heat lately, I have a feeling that the big lights will be a bug magnet par-excellence.

We can talk about the gate runs on Friday, and figure out who&#39;ll do what. Thanks for the offer, and don&#39;t worry... I&#39;ll take you up on some help.

Henriksson, if you and Scott are there by noon, that&#39;ll be fine. If you are running late on the way up, please give me a call at the number I posted above so I can let Barbara know.

[grtwythunter]

How many of you guys are bringing some sort of fire pit? I&#39;m bringing mine, but a few extra would be nice.

Scott

[deadducks]

We are bringing on e also. Washer tub style. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pig-laughing.bmp

[pitdog]

I loaded the "Ralph Nader Nightmare" Sunday and have no room for the "Maytag". I hope 2 will be enough.

I have a couple bundles of cedar for the fire. I&#39;ll bring a large tarp for shade and some Jack for the stories http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif .

Is it friday yet?

[One Track]

I&#39;ll bring a fire pit, yes I will.
It&#39;s a quick answer to the evening chill.

Slide on up with belly full.
Grab a seat and shoot the bull.

Lay one back in the fire&#39;s glow.
Pass the bottle to next huntin&#39; bro.

Giddy up y&#39;all. Ticka tock y&#39;all.

Everybody say, "JAY!" Everybody say, "HO!" Everybody,"JAY HO HO."

JAY-HO in the house, y&#39;all.

B-Diddy...out

[grtwythunter]

Man....we must be gettin close. Everyone&#39;s gone goofy http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-hitting-self.gif

Scott

[karstic]

Crap!! Is it Friday yet? I can&#39;t even make it through today. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/afraid_face.gif

[karstic]

Originally posted by deadducks@May 17 2004, 07:33 AM
We are bringing on e also. Washer tub style. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pig-laughing.bmp
I&#39;ll bring one also. Any community BBQ&#39;s? I&#39;ll bring a bag of charcoal, if someone, willing to share grill space.

Any of the veterans willing to show a noob how to field dress a hog?

[superduty]

Allot of you guys keep talking about bringing the Jack. I would be carefull if I was you. I&#39;ve heard bad things about that stuff. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-2drunks-singing.gif

[Speckmisser]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
Any of the veterans willing to show a noob how to field dress a hog?[/b]

Get him on the ground, cut him open, and put everything that was inside on the outside. Nothing to it. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-cool-shades-down.gif

Seriously, though. Shoot him, and somebody will help (if we can find you).

Oh, and OneTrack... I don&#39;t know about this whole B-diddy thing. I get the feeling you&#39;ve been hanging around that radio station too long! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-ren.gif

[Speckmisser]

OMG, Superduty!!!!
THAT&#39;S CLASSIC! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-sideways-laff-aqua.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-sideways-laff-aqua.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-sideways-laff-aqua.gif

[gwhunter69]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
Any of the veterans willing to show a noob how to field dress a hog?[/b]

No problem. It is the same asa deer or any animal. Cut a little "t" at the base of ribs and stick your guthook in zip it open. Pull out everything that does not look edible. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-wnk-yellow.gif Be sure to wear gloves. Like Speck said shoot it first. Besides, didn&#39;t you hear about the NOOBY RULE??? You have to field dress and skin all the pigs this weekend. You will be a pro real quick... http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-sideways-laff-aqua.gif That is how I learned my first year in deer camp... http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-wnk-yellow.gif

[One Track]

Guttin&#39; a hog is fun. If you don&#39;t have anybody around that can help you right away, just throw it in the back of the truck and go find somebody. I wouldn&#39;t leave it ungutted for more than a half hour if it&#39;s hot outside. You want to gut that thing as quickly as possible. But, it can wait a few if you can find some guidance. Now, if you&#39;re at the bottom of some mountain, and the truck is at the top, you better get busy.

It helps to be on a slant with the head uphill. You might prop a few rocks or logs on the outside of the hog to prevent it from flopping over on it&#39;s side.

Zip the belly open. Split the rib cage too for easier access. Then, get down in there and wrap your arms around the big pile of guts, with knife in hand. Cut the membrane that attachs to the backbone. That will release the entire glob of inards. Also, cut the windpipe as close as you can to the head. Grab the windpipe and pull all that shit out of the hog. Then, tip the hog over and get rid of anyblood that&#39;s pooled up. Move the hog away from the nasty pile, and clean up the hog. Trim away any shot up meat. Try not to get a bunch of dirt and stuff in the cavity. Keep it as clean as possible.

Carry a bone saw or a hatchet, so you can break thru the pelvic, soze you can remove the entire pooper and it&#39;s contents. Also, don&#39;t puncture the bladder. Actuallly, try not to puncture any of the organs.

It&#39;s fun. I love sittin&#39; on a log and watchin&#39; somebody else gut a hog. It&#39;s even better when you have a beer in your hand.

[grtwythunter]

Karstic
I&#39;m bringing a small propane BBQ that your welcome to use. If I&#39;m around when you drop a hog I&#39;d be glad to help you out too.

Scott

[karstic]

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No problem. It is the same asa deer or any animal.[/b]

There in lies the problem. The biggest thing I&#39;ve had to clean are pheasants. Pigs aint no pheasants.

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Besides, didn&#39;t you hear about the NOOBY RULE??? You have to field dress and skin all the pigs this weekend. You will be a pro real quick...### That is how I learned my first year in deer camp...###[/b]

I didn&#39;t mind givin&#39; a helping hand. Learn by experience right.

[karstic]

Originally posted by superduty@May 17 2004, 01:03 PM
Allot of you guys keep talking about bringing the Jack. I would be carefull if I was you. I&#39;ve heard bad things about that stuff. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-2drunks-singing.gif
I&#39;ll be bringing some stuff from the old country brewed by distant relatives. Even has a hunter on the label.

[grtwythunter]

As a sidenote to OneTrack&#39;s how-to....if you&#39;re going to have a very long drag, you might not want to split the pelvis and ribcage. It exposes alot more meat to dirt, leaves, etc......The cleaner your carcass, the better it&#39;s going to taste.

My http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/two-cents.gif
Scott

[One Track]

Good one Scott. I&#39;ve even sewn up the gut with boot laces to keep the dirt out, and the blood off my back. Mostly with deer. Hard to keep yer boots on though.

I&#39;m about as jacked up for this trip as I was for my first day with Carmen.

[prohunter]

Is there any shade at the campgrounds for us po&#39; folks with tents?

[grtwythunter]

I haven&#39;t had to resort to bootlaces yet. I usually carry a roll on unwaxed dental floss in my pack. Works great for tying up the belly or intestine if need be. You could even Rambo up some stitches in a bad emergency.

Scott

[grtwythunter]

Should be plenty of shade to go around Prohunter.

Scott

[fpscabs]

Wow, OneTrack, you dated CARMEN MIRANDA http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-hair-raisin-blue.gif

[Rancho Loco]

NWS Digital Forecast Data for 7 miles northeast of Frazier Park.
.Tonight...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 18 mph. Low 50.
.Tuesday...Partly cloudy. South wind 21 mph. High 71.
.Tuesday Night...Partly cloudy. West wind 16 mph. Low 45.
.Wednesday...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 14 mph. High 70.
.Wednesday Night...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 16 mph. Low 45.
.Thursday...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 18 mph. High 60.
.Thursday Night...Partly cloudy. West wind 16 mph. Low 46.
.Friday...Partly cloudy. West wind 13 mph. High 60.
.Saturday...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 16 mph. Low 46. High 61.
.Sunday...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 18 mph. Low 47. High 62.

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[gnn961]

Temps look good hope the wind dies down some though..

Hey Spec since its one of my group that will be arriving late I volunteer to man the gate. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-dancin-red.gif

[Speckmisser]

Hey Carl,

That might be a deal.

Wanna give me a call? Number is posted above (so far, no calls from PETA).

[hronk]

I had to call Barbara at Tejon today about some problems, and what a class act. She was nothing except helpful, caring and just a real nice person. If there is anything that she can help with or do she will!.....See you all in 72hrs....hronk

[Hogskin]

Maybe I&#39;m just a perv (well, actually, I&#39;m pretty sure I am, but I digress).... anyway, when I kill a boar, I flip him over on his back and grab his schlong in my hand (kinda like you&#39;re grabbing the throttle on a motorcycle), squeeze it, and push HARD into his abdomen. This will cause a whole lotta piss to squirt out (so don&#39;t get in the way). This helps keep the meat from getting spoiled. Just my http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/two-cents.gif

I&#39;m absolutely SICK that I&#39;m not going to make it on this hunt. I&#39;m glad you guys are still going but it is going to be one MISERABLE weekend for me. Best wishes for a great time to all.

[spectr17]

For skinning hogs, nothing works better than one of them razor knives you find at Home DEpot. Get the one with the big handle and break off blades. It gets dull and you just break off the dull part and keep on skinning. About $5.99 last time I bought one.

Forecast looks good. It was very nice up at Tejon Saturday when we had cloud cover. Once it burned off it got pretty hot in the afternoon.

I played back some tape of some ground squirrel shooting this past weekend at Tejon and there was a big ole rattler crawling right by the truck as I was making a squeak dance with my bad shooting. Poor squeak, a rattler on his left and me on his right trying to take his head off with a .22 mag. I never saw the snake until I replayed the video. He must of been going down to the creek I was next to get a drink since it was blazing hot in the afternoon. Watch where you put your feet and hands. Snake chaps might even be handy in high grass.

I&#39;ll be bringing some shirts, hats and stickers in anybody wants to buy them there.

[gwhunter69]

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I flip him over on his back and grab his schlong in my hand (kinda like you&#39;re grabbing the throttle on a motorcycle), squeeze it, and push HARD into his abdomen.[/b]

Then you have a cigarette? http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-sideways-laff-aqua.gif JK WHat do you do if it is a sow?

[Hogskin]

If it&#39;s a sow, it won&#39;t work. Just be extra careful not to puncture the bladder.

[gwhunter69]

OK, I figure as much. I thought that was need trick. Have you tried it on deer?

[bighorn67]

Prohunter,

There are shady spots at the back end of the campground. Most tenters go there. I may pull my tent trailer under a tree as well.

I am willing to help anyone clean their hog who needs it.

Dave

[prohunter]

thanks! plan on being at gate @ 9:30.

[prohunter]

ok i am confused! do we meet at the gate in Lebec (DWR road) or do we meet at corporate headquarters? I have never been there. I am looking at a map for the south side.

[Speckmisser]

Hey guys,

Just to be sure... we need to meet at the Tejon HQ on Friday morning for check in... NOT at the gate. Once you&#39;re checked in (don&#39;t forget that emissions check at the fire department), you&#39;re ready to head over to the gate.

[grtwythunter]

Is anyone showing up early that is interested in grabbing some breakfast in Lebec before check-in?

Scott

[Speckmisser]

Scott,

Let&#39;s touch base. Mudwalker and I are gonna pull in Thursday night, but will probably stay back at the Bakersfield exit (58) instead of paying the Grapevine/Lebec hotel prices. I think wmidbrook is also gonna be in the area. I know there&#39;s a Denny&#39;s down at the bottom of the hill, but don&#39;t know anything past the Tejon HQ. Where are you thinking?

[fpscabs]

The truck stop at Frazier park exit has good food and cheap gas. It was cheaper than the Arco by home last time through that way. I think it is a Flying J Truck Stop. http://www.flyingj.com/highway/amenities/a...?site_code=5055 (http://www.flyingj.com/highway/amenities/addtnlinfo.cfm?site_code=5055)
Gas is (as of 5/18 @ 6am) $2.30 reg and diesel $2.20.
We always stop there for some pancakes when we would have an outing flyfishing Tejon Lake with my casting club.

[deadducks]

Can anyone give directions to the Lebec fire station for the fire inspection?

How about to Tejon H.Q.? I am pretty sure I know where this is but just in case.

I just wanna make sure I have it all straight and I&#39;m not driving around looking for these places at the last minute.

Thanks and its almost FRIDAY http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-dancin-red.gif

[superduty]

deadducks, follow the signs or the JHO stickers and you can&#39;t miss it. The Lebec fire station is off of Lebec so it is a no brainer if your coming North up the 5fwy. Going South it gets alittle tricky. It&#39;s on the East side of the frwy as is the Lebec gate going into Tejon so when you get off on Lebec going South on 5fwy turn left. Then hang another left on to the overpass bridge you will see going to the other side. The Fire Station is on your left and the frwy will be on your right. Good Luck. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-dancin-red.gif
OK, anyone ready to see last weekends report I promised? I had to work last Sat. but someone made it out to the Ranch. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banana-man-yeah.gif

[Rancho Loco]

NWS Digital Forecast Data for 3 miles northeast of Frazier Park.
.Today...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 16 mph. High 69.
.Tonight...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 13 mph. Low 41.
.Thursday...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 17 mph. High 67.
.Thursday Night...Partly cloudy. West wind 16 mph. Low 41.
.Friday...Partly cloudy. West wind 12 mph. High 65.
.Friday Night...Partly cloudy. West wind 15 mph. Low 40.
.Saturday...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 18 mph. High 60.
.Sunday...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 19 mph. Low 41. High 61.

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[wmidbrook]

Looks like we&#39;ll have some great hunting weather...not too hot. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-dancin-red.gif

I&#39;ll be staying in the Bakersfield area Thursday night before heading up the hill towards Lebec so I&#39;m up for meeting for breakfast.

[grtwythunter]

How&#39;s the Flying J coffee shop sound to you guys? I think Speck needs to be at the ranch by 9:30. What time is good for ya&#39;ll? I&#39;m good for anytime.

Scott

[One Track]

Scott:

We&#39;ll probably be pulling in for some flapjacks about 8:30am.

Fritz is buying is buying breaky!

[bighorn67]

I&#39;ll try to make it to the truck stop by that time, but don&#39;t hold me to it. I have to stop by a tire shop on the way and get my spare trailer tire fixed.

Dave

[fpscabs]

Thanks Onetrack for the fax http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-dancin-red.gif

@ 08:30, I will just be getting on the road http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-hair-raisin-blue.gif Have to drop off the kids (huny-dooooo thingy) for school.


Coming from the south, what exit do I get off at for the firestation? Lebic? Superduty, I saw your post before, but is the station visable from the exit?
After the station, do I need to get back on the fwy? or surface streets to HQ?

Yes, I know I need the stupid thing spelled out, but come Friday morning I will have http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/pig-laughing.bmp fever. Better get all this stuff in long term memory http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-ren.gif

[superduty]

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Coming from the south, what exit do I get off at for the firestation?[/b]
Maybe it&#39;s me but does that mean your coming from the South going North or from the North going South? http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-hitting-self.gif
Anyway, if your going South to get into the area then no you will not see the fire station untill you get off the frwy and follow my directions. When your at the fire station you can throw a rock and hit the cars in the North bound slow lanes if it pleases you. I don&#39;t recomend doing this though since there seems to be a Highway Patrol man that likes to sit right across from the station facing the North bound traffic with his radar on. You should see how fast he can flip a Uey and get on that 5frwy. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/afraid_face.gif If your coming up the 5fwy you will get off just after the rest stop on Lebec and you need to start hitting the brakes imediately or you will pass the fire station on your right and don&#39;t forget about the Highway Patrol mans radar on you left. Good Luck. You will probably be getting back on the frwy for acouple of miles going more North to get to the ranch headquarters on your right.

[fpscabs]

Super
Thanks, yes, I am coming up from Arcadia.

[spectr17]

Let&#39;s set CB, HAM and FRS channels to monitor. Last time I missed Chris (Dilproxo) getting a pig right above me and left him all alone to drag out a hog. A radio would have made a world of difference.

CB - monitor channel 12.
FRS - monitor ch 2. No Privacy code. 462.5875 mhz
HAM - 144.450 mhz, no PL.

If you need help, hail on those channels and hopefully someone will hear you and help or relay to someone to come help.

I&#39;ll also have drawing tickets for some prizes Saturday night so make sure you get a drawing ticket. I&#39;ll give some to Phil too so see one of us for a ticket for the drawings.

[karstic]

Breakfast at 830am at the Flying J.

Jesse thanks for posting the radio info. I was wondering about that.

All you guys hittin&#39; the road tomorrow, have a safe drive, we&#39;ll see you Friday morning.

Man tomorrow&#39;s going to be a long day.

[QALHNTR]

Man oh man, I haven&#39;t busted a piggy in two years and this thread is KILLING me.

Good luck and safe hunting to all of you! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-bowdown-purple.gif

[Speckmisser]

Hey guys,

I&#39;m heading out to the office today, and will be leaving directly from there to head south. Won&#39;t have access to JHO or email until Monday.

If anyone needs to contact me, please feel free to use my cell phone number:

510-427-5567

Once we get to the ranch, in addition to the cell phone I&#39;ll be on FRS radio, CH 2 (as Jesse recommended).

I still haven&#39;t found out for sure about the fire station hours in Lebec. If I can, I&#39;ll try to get that info and pass it back to all of you somehow or other.

I&#39;ll be staying near Bakersfield tonight, and driving the rest of the way to Lebec in the morning. If we can get rolling early enough, maybe we&#39;ll be there in time for breakfast at the Flying J.

If not, I&#39;ll see you guys at Tejon HQ around 1000.

IT&#39;S ALMOST TIME!!! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-devil.gif

[Backcountry]

Have a good safe hunt everybody. Wish I was going with you!

http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif Backcountry

[superduty]

Speck, I think I have the hours for the fire check at Lebec station in my truck. These are their regular check hours and I don&#39;t know if they do anything special for the POR&#39;s or Ham Slams. I will see if I cant slip out of my office and out to the truck long enough to get that information.

[Speckmisser]

Superduty,

That would be big help. Barbara told me the regular hours, but that didn&#39;t work out with our schedule so she was going to talk to them about setting special hours for Friday. I haven&#39;t heard back from her about that.

If you could, go ahead and post those regular hours, though? That might be useful to some of the guys.

Thanks!

[superduty]

Alright guys, here it is. The normal check hours at the Lebec station are from 8:AM tell 10:AM and there is also a evening check time which I don&#39;t believe you will need. I went the extra mile and just got off the phone with Captain John Peterson who is aware there will be a large group coming up Friday and said he will be willing to work with us from 8:AM tell 10:PM. He said just be patient, if their not there then they are out on a call and should be back soon. He mentioned another station but I&#39;m not familiar with that one. He said just be curtious and try not to visit them before or after those hours. Hope this helps. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-dancin-red.gif

[wmidbrook]

There&#39;s mention of two other Kern County Fire dept&#39;s that will do inspections. They&#39;re listed in the Tejon package Speckmisser sent out.


I&#39;ll have my ears on CB channel 12 when in my truck.

See you all down there~!

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[grtwythunter]

I was such a mess at work today I ended up leaving early. Man, I can&#39;t wait till morning. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-dancin-red.gif

I&#39;ll be up there in time for breakfast. See ya there.

Scott

[gnn961]

Hey Superduty what was the report for Tejon from last week?????

[spectr17]

Ticks weren&#39;t bad this spring turkey hunting at Tejon but I still sprayed my clothes down with Permanone. $4.99 at Wally World for a can that does a shirt, pants, hat and gloves. Make sure and do both inside and out. If you can&#39;t get it done tonight just pick up the can on the way and spray down your clothes Friday afternoon or night. They have to dry after spraying but some guys can put them on right away. SOme people react to the Permanone if they get it on them so beware.

And to all you office weenies stuck at work Friday...... Thwuuppfft

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[Rancho Loco]

NWS Digital Forecast Data for 8 miles northeast of Frazier Park.
.This Afternoon...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 18 mph. High 69.
.Tonight...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 17 mph. Low 49.
.Friday...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 16 mph. High 68.
.Friday Night...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 15 mph. Low 51.
.Saturday...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 14 mph. High 70.
.Saturday Night...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 14 mph. Low 51.
.Sunday...Partly cloudy. Northwest wind 12 mph. High 70.