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spectr17
06-02-2003, 11:20 PM
Mike Bolton, The Birminghan News

Deer hunters, landowners feud may end in death


06/01/03

For residents of the suburbs, the idea of a real-life feud between deer hunters and Alabama landowners is probably hard to fathom. But it's real.

And the seriousness of this issue won't become clear until somebody dies. I suspect that could happen any day now.

Hunting deer with dogs has been a way of life in Alabama for decades. Back in the good old days, a dog deer hunter could knock on the door of somebody he didn't know and probably get permission to hunt on that property.

Hunting in Alabama has changed. Land where you could once hunt free now leases to hunters for an astronomical amount. A rural farm where someone hunted deer with his dogs for 20 years might now be leased to somebody from a Birmingham suburb. Although the place may be just down the road from the hunter's home, he is no longer welcome there.

Some dog hunters have accepted that they can no longer afford to hunt. They have sought other hobbies. Most dog hunters have pooled their resources and created dog hunting clubs on large tracts.

A few, however, have decided the heck with the law they'll take their dogs and hunt whenever and wherever they want. They will pull up to a piece of property where they have no permission to hunt, turn their dogs loose and fire away with their guns no matter whether a deer is running across the front yard or a highway. It's this small bunch of dog hunters that is making life miserable for everyone.

For the landowners who have the audacity to challenge them, life can turn into a nightmare.

Trying to find such a landowner who will talk and allow his name to be published is a difficult chore. The fear is that deep. There are never-ending stories of guns being held to their heads, cows shot, barns burned, roofing tacks on roads, threats to families, fences cut and gates knocked down. Many landowners are scared of retaliation if they talk.

There are two losers in this drama. Foremost are the landowners who are afraid even to allow their kids to play in their front yards. Imagine having to carry a pistol whereever you go because you're scared.

The second loser is the legitimate dog hunter who wouldn't even think of purposely letting his dog stray on someone else's property.

Because of what landowners have been put through, hunting with dogs was banned in Marion, Lamar and Franklin counties two weeks ago and curtailed in portions of three south Alabama counties. What a shame it came to that. Legitimate dog hunters complain that the banning of dog hunting in their counties is akin to taking automobiles away from everybody because a few drink and drive. What a great analogy.

The real shame is that hunting is supposed to be fun, but for many involved in this issue the fun has long ceased. People who want to hit a few golf balls in their backyard don't have to live in fear because other golfers will show up in their yards and terrorize them. People who play softball don't see their bats taken away because a few hoodlums use bats to knock down mailboxes.

The real shame is that somebody is eventually going to get killed over deer hunting with dogs. The anti-hunters are going to get a kick out of that. Mike Bolton's outdoors column appears on Sunday.

ACrowe
07-09-2003, 01:51 PM
Mike Bolton has always been outspoken when it come to the great dog hunters in the state of Alabama. Don't get me wrong my dad is a big time rabbit hunter with beagles (and is responsible for them). But it seems like big time coon hunters and and other dog hunters want to cry anytime someone wants them to take some for responsibility their dogs. I'm sorry but there is not that many large tracks of land left to run your dogs on anymore and even some of the large landowners don't want dogs (I am talking about running deer with dogs).
So the cry is it is our right to run dogs and if the come on your property thats tough. I hate to see any new laws made against hunters of any type but when the hunter will not govern themselves or show common courtesy to ajoining land owners I really can't fill pitty for them. But that is just my opinion.

257ack
09-30-2004, 11:52 AM
Dog hunters, by their own admission, cant control their dogs. Even the few that want to ( not many ) cant keep their dogs off your property. I struggled and saved for 30 years to buy a little piece of land to hunt in peace and quite, just to have deer dogs to run on my property. These dog hunters, in fact, hunt my land. I cant hunt my land because I wont kill a deer in front of a dog.
What we need is a dog trespass law like Florida, or better yet, Ban it altogether. Only a handful of other sattes allow it.

almtnman
10-03-2004, 06:09 AM
Originally posted by ACrowe@Jul 9 2003, 12:51 PM
Don't get me wrong my dad is a big time rabbit hunter with beagles (and is responsible for them). But it seems like big
I used to love to hunt rabbits with a pack of beagles. I sure would like to go rabbit hunting sometime again.

ACrowe
10-04-2004, 07:19 AM
almntman,
My dad has experienced almost the same type of problem deer dog hunters are going through. He has ahard time just finding a tract of land large enough to hunt and then getting permission to hunt it.

Most of the time now he will hunt on a deer club that will give him permission and he has found some good large tracts that are open to the public offered by TVA in North Alabama. As a matter of fact he and a couple of friends are going to the TVA land Wednesday to hunt.

He always enjoys hunting and making new rabbit hunting contacts so if you think you might want to get together with him let me know and I will try to set you guys up.

Anthony

almtnman
10-05-2004, 10:55 AM
I'd like to go sometime, but right now, I have a lot of irons in the fire. I might take up that offer later though. I love hearing a small pack of beagles chasing a rabbit. It doesn't get much better than that.

ACrowe
10-05-2004, 12:10 PM
I have to agree, just let me know and I will see what I can do.