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02-02-2003, 06:43 AM
Hello- My name is Jim Welles. I run a small successful outfitting business in New Mexico. My main focus is big pronghorn bucks. I have a web page at http://www.newmexicobiggamehunting.com.
I have four openings left on two of my ranches. One ranch with 2 spots is located at Roy, NM. We killed a beautiful 83 gross B&C last fall on this place, and I have 2 spots at Santa Rosa. Santa Rosa always produces good bucks. I have several photos of bucks harvested there on my site. If anyone is interested in trying for public Gila BIG BUCK or other prime NM public spots let me know. I will either talk to you about your draw odds/success or be willing to take you.
I will offer a 10% reduction for all JHP members on my outfitted rifle antelope hunts. I will offer a 5% reduction on all my bow and muzzleloader deer and antelope hunts.
E-mail me if I can help with your antelope or any New Mexico hunting need. Thanks
02-02-2003, 06:52 AM
Do you do Quail Hunts down there ? Would be real interested in that.
Nice Website, just got back from Lurking. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-biggrin-aqua.gif
02-02-2003, 07:20 AM
Sorry, I don't, but I'd be happy to give tell you about a guy south Socorro that nocks the heck out of them. He's a good guy and he knows a ton about bird hunting in the central part of the state.
02-04-2003, 04:42 AM
If you are a bowhunter....we have just heard one of our preferred ranches has lowered their price for 2003. This is an outfitted hunt, place to stay, accommodations, guide for $1,250. If you'd like to read a couple of article about the ranch, go to www.imoutdoors.com and search the name Lynn Burkhead (ESPN Writer). From there go to page 4 and look for articles called Mission Possible, and Pronghorn-Just Add Water. Also, I still have 2 spots at Capulin for private land pronghorn bowhunters. Thanks-Jim
02-06-2003, 07:15 PM
If you had a chance to go to the site, great and thank you. Please remember that my rifle antelope hunts offer the 10% JHP discount and if you have a hunter under 18, take off another 15%. We love to see the kids faces with their harvest!! I have only one spot left at Santa Rosa but the 2 spots at Roy are still there. This is a great hunt with an awesome guide, me. I will discount this hunt further if you can book both spots. Thanks again-Jim
02-11-2003, 04:45 AM
Thinking about New Mexico as a hunting option?? If you are, I can help you understand the draw game here. Its not simple and looking at odds is key. E-mail me if you have a question about this crazy system we have. Same goes with land owner permits (private land access). I can help you there as well.
02-11-2003, 10:27 AM
Thanks for your offering! That's pretty nice of you, let me put some chips together and we may be hunting there soon.. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-biggrin-aqua.gif
02-26-2003, 06:19 PM
Ok guys, I'm ready to take any reasonable offer on a guided hunt for two at Roy. This hunt is on private land, includes guaranteed permits, meals, lodging, field care of trophies and meat. Check out one of the bucks we took on this hunt last year at my site. He grossed 83. Only 2 hunters are guided on this hunt. Jim
JFW Ranch Consulting (http://www.newmexicobiggamehunting.com)
03-14-2003, 04:40 AM
The Roy guided hunts are still there. This is an awesome hunt for a father/son, father/daughter, mother/son, mother/daughter, buddy/buddy, business owner/client, grandmother/grandsonson, grandmother/granddaughter, grandfather/grandson, grandfather/granddaughter.....etc.
I'm sure you've got the picture, except for the younins need to have a hunter safety card.
03-15-2003, 01:50 PM
Just wanted to let all of you know that I have been in contact with Jim for the last month and he is great to work with. He and I are trying to arrange a hunt for this fall. He also provided me with a few references that I contacted and they all raved about the hunt and accomidations that Jim provides.
The reason that I post this is that I let Jim know this morning that I was interested in this Antelope hunt. Now he is working on something for me but I want to let all of you know. I will be going alone and the hunt is for two. If any of you would be interested in doing this hunt it is a great price and I think would be allot of fun. If you are interested let me know.
Jim, I hope that it is not a problem that I posted this.
03-15-2003, 03:15 PM
No prob Paul. Thanks for the kind words. I'll be in touch.
03-31-2003, 04:49 AM
We are still looking for a 2nd person to make Pauls great deal work. If your out there, let us know. Thanks
04-06-2003, 06:20 AM
Paul, I made the decison to go with the Outdoor Guide. We will be joining his crew at Roy. I will be in touch with you about the details. For those out there looking for NM Landowner Access Permits for Antelope, I will most likely have 1 or 2 for sale. You can e-mail me for the details. Jim
05-17-2003, 08:21 PM
Its been a while since I have posted here. I just got my antelope contracts in from the Game and Fish Department here in NM. One of the ranches that we signed up a few years ago is going to open for a hunt this fall. It is located in GMU 40 south of Tucumcari. The ranch is 13,200 all deeded and has not been hunted in several years. The department is going to issue 4 landowner permits. If there is a group of 4 rifle hunters out there that want a smokin deal on a guided and or fully outfitted hunt on this ranch, e-mail me ASAP. I am going to look at the ranch to ascertain the quality within the next 2 weeks. Since it hasn't been hunted there could be some absolute hogs. Jimbo
05-21-2003, 02:21 PM
I have 2 landowner permits at Santa Rosa on the Sunshine Mesa Ranch for sale, 6,000 acres all deeded. This place is within 8 minutes driving time from Santa Rosa. If you don't draw, e-mail me if you have interest. The price is $1,000 each.
05-23-2003, 07:48 PM
A rancher friend of mine applied for rifle permits this year. He said he has several buck in excess of 80 inches that will die of old age if not harvested. He wants $2,500 for a fully outfitted hunt. Jesse's guys get 10% off. This ranch is 52,000 acres. It is located near Ft. Sumner, NM. Let me know if anyone has interest.
06-13-2003, 07:32 AM
FYI-A high up bird in the Department has let me know the NM draw results are being pushed up. The projected release date will be the end of June. Cross your fingers!!! If you are a mobility impaired hunter and don't draw, and if you want a shot at hunting on the Tucumcari Ranch mentioned above August 3, before anyone else....., let me know.
06-15-2003, 05:15 PM
I just read two studies determining that bucks in the 2 to 3 year old range have the largest horns. Some buck pronghorn can live anywhere from 12 to 14 years given the right conditions. The bucks that are 80 inches could be very young bucks and in no risk of dying anytime soon.
06-22-2003, 06:09 AM
Grail-thanks for the info. Is this study available anywhere to read? What do you think about the comment on 2-3 year olds? It seems a bit out there to me........
I am interested in that second tag, if it is still available.
What are the dates of the hunt?
06-22-2003, 07:25 PM
I sent you an e-mail. Lemme know if you get it.
Well, I think that there is something to what they're saying. Generally, I'm going to agree that bucks that are going to have big horns anytime in their life are going to have them early on. If they aren't trophy potential when they're 2 or 3 then they probably never will be. Which, of course, creates a dilemma in trying to manage for pronghorn if you can do so on a ranch. Theoretically you'd need to try and eliminate the little bucks that are obviously 2 years old or older while also trying to kill the bucks that are big (to make your clients happy)...but if a buck that's big is only 2 or 3 and you kill that buck then that buck doesn't get to reproduce his genes. I think this (big bucks being young) is why MONSTER antelope are still be taken - even World's Record size - almost every year. And also why big bucks seem to appear one year out of thin air. There is one good thing that I know for a fact...given the right conditions or genetics a buck can be over 90 inches for AT LEAST 5 years. We've got one on film for 5 years that was over 90 for all five years. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) he was the biggest the first and second year we saw him. After that he started getting smaller - still over 90 - but still smaller.
That's my take for now. At least until I change my mind.
06-22-2003, 10:02 PM
Thanks Grail-Great info and food for thought. Best o Luck in the upcoming months. Jimbo
07-06-2003, 07:54 PM
I had 2 cancellations on rifle hunts at Santa Rosa. If anyone would like the spots at a discount rate, give me an e-mail. Jim
Sent you an e-mail...
07-07-2003, 06:21 PM
I tried to e-mail you twice. Kept getting fatal errors. Try me again. JFWRC@aol.com.
07-10-2003, 06:54 PM
We are only going to use 2 of the 8,300 deeded Quay Ranch Landowner Permits this year. One is pledged, the other is not. The pledged tag is going to a MI hunter. He will be there Aug 2. The second tag is available for a solo hunter September 20-21. The hunter will have the option of using the landowner permit with or without a guide. The price for the permit is$1,000 less 10% for Jesse's hunters. If you want, the neighbor is willing to guide for $200/day. The ranch is 15 miles due south of Tucumcari. I also have two landowner permits for August 23-25 on a smaller ranch, 2,500 deeded acres, north of Cuervo NM. These are unit wide permits meaning you can move to the other unit wide 5,000 acre ranch. The price for these are $500 each less 10% for Jesse's hunters. I'm ready to cut a great deal on the two cancellation hunts on my Santa Rosa Ranches. Make me an offer http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif
08-26-2003, 04:43 AM
I just got back from Roy, NM where I participated in the making of a TV show, "The Outdoor Guide." It was hard and interesting but we managed to video three one shot kills in picture perfect order. The show will be aired two times in the fall of 2004. I thought guiding a lady or youngster was the biggest challenge. Nope, try to take a hunter and two camera crew in on a buck. It gets interesting to say the least. One of the hunters was Dave Bloch, President of "The Outdoor Edge", a high quality cutlery designer and manufacturer. His products are worth checking out. He shot a real nice buck. I really can't wait to see this show. There will be a cool surprise for Jesse's readers.
08-26-2003, 05:38 PM
Let us know when and what channel it will air on. See you the 19th.
08-27-2003, 12:04 PM
A Jesse Dude on the TV......Too Cool !!!!!!
When will you know the show date's ?
08-27-2003, 07:49 PM
Unfortunately it won't be until 2004. It will be aired on the Outdoor Channel. We don't get it here in Albuquerque unless you have a dish. Heck, I'll have to get someone to record it for me until they send me a tape.
09-03-2003, 04:32 AM
Here are a couple of bucks to get ya going. The first one is the big daddy on the wrong side of the fence. The second was harvested by the owner of the Outdoor Edge, a fine cutlery company from Boulder. They have some way nice products that you guys should look at see www.outdooredge.com. I am booking hunts for 2004 at a new ranch near Raton, NM. If you havea hankeren for the first crack, shoot me an e-mail. Both these antelope will be on "THE OUTDOOR GUIDE " show in 2004. Jimbo
09-03-2003, 05:14 AM
Sorry, big daddy's photo didn't come through right. I'm going to try again. We didn't see this one harvested. Hopefully he's still makin babies right now!! Both these bucks make it on the show. Jimbo
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