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JD HHI 6092
11-18-2006, 10:29 AM
I currently own a Dwight Schuh Hunting Packs. When packing out meat I use some straps that I made with webbing along with some parachute cord. I found a pack frame made by Wilderness Specialties. They have a feature called the Handipac that allows you to carry meat while giving some support to the bottom of the load.
Does anyone know of any company that sells these "handipac type" supports?
11-18-2006, 11:47 AM
I've seen that one on the internet. Have you tried it? Looks like it would be pretty comfortable and quiet.
JD HHI 6092
11-18-2006, 03:26 PM
I gotta to agree with you. It looks well made and comfortable.
I already own the Dwight Schuh Hunting Pack. The frame is simular, it has a lot of slots on it, I can remove the pack and a fanny pack. I think if I can just get this support it would work. If not I might have to break down and just buy the pack frame with that handipack.
11-19-2006, 01:33 PM
Look below at the Wilderness Packs post and I am trying to sell the same one. I will sell for$200 shipped or trade for a scope.
JD HHI 6092
11-19-2006, 04:53 PM
Thanks for the offer. I'm interested in just the pack frame unless I can just purchase what they call the Handipack. My frame has all those slots so it should work.
Maybe the wife will buy me an early Chirstmas gift.
How old is the pack? Been used much?
How much if I'm willing to pick it up? I'll be driving down to El Paso from Colorado Spings this Tuesday?
11-20-2006, 08:12 AM
I used it for my elk hunt this year, so it is still perfect like new. I paid $265 in August, so $200 is a good price. I will just let is sit if I can not trade it or sell it. If you pick it up I could let it go for $175 and that is as low as I can go. Wilderness Packs is who makes it and Kifaru has addition stuff for the frame. My garage is full of packs is why I am trying to clean up some. Let me know., thanks, Larry.
That's about what I use. There is a bit of a squeak when I cinch down on the hips, but it will allow a wuss like me to carry more weight than I thought I could. I got mine thru Eagle Industries. Some generations in this frame design had problems with cracking. My understanding is they wanted a strong plastic but they got too close to the brittle end of things. I don't know which, when etc. I guess the military was trying to improve on the alice frame and they came up with the molle system, but you guys probably know alot more about this than I do. I cut the straps off a small daypack and sewed nylon straps to it so I could lash the pack to the frame. I don't really much about backpack hunting but this worked for me.
JD HHI 6092
11-20-2006, 04:06 PM
Jean how much that hog weigh? How far did you carry it and was it comfortable?
11-20-2006, 04:59 PM
I've had the Schuh pack for a few years. Can't say I've been thrilled with it, but it's passable. I'm sure you probably know this already, but just a note of caution. Whatever you do, when you take it off, be careful how/where you place this pack fully-loaded. If it's out in the sun the combination of heat and stress from the weight will bend/break the frame if you lean the frame on something (against a rock, etc). This happened to my brother twice (on two separate Schuh packs), so now I'm extra careful with mine. He's since moved on to the Wilderness Specialities frame in your picture (using the Schuh bag).
Give WS a call. They don't list it separately, but maybe they'll sell you the Handipac by itself anyway.
I think as you see it there was about 60lbs. The skinned beheaded carcass weighed 37lbs at the butcher. I posted the story in the hog forum. It was only about a quarter mile all uphill. It was comfortable but I whined the whole way anyway. Good thing nobody was listening on the radio.
I figure not too bad for an out of shape office worker.
JD HHI 6092
11-21-2006, 09:08 AM
They will make the handipack for me, I should have it in a few days. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/banana-man-yeah.gif
I think the new "molle" style frame might be better so I won't have to worry about heat and it bending. If my old Dwight Schuh pack attaches to it I might just order the frame from Wilderness Specialties instead of purchasing a complete set up. Thanks for the info! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-ani.gif
11-21-2006, 02:36 PM
The Schuh bag will attach to the WS frame. That is exactly what my brother is doing now.
JD HHI 6092
11-27-2006, 08:26 AM
Thanks for the information. That's what I'm going to look into doing.
12-14-2006, 02:47 PM
Wilderness Pack system: Made in oregon.
12-15-2006, 06:38 AM
Wilderness Pack Systems, way more support and stiffer frame than the Dwight Shuh pack. The only concern I had was with the shoulder straps and waist belt not looking padded enough. But, I carried a full 65lbs every day this season and the straps are very adequate.
And yes, under the pack bag there is a web sling(handipack) already attached to the frame that will haul 100lbs.
This company does what they say and the product is well worth the money, they also will do any custom modifications you request.
JD HHI 6092
12-16-2006, 09:39 AM
I'm leaning towards the Wilderness pack frame. They have a Sportman's Expo next month in Denver. I'm going to wait they might have a pack frame that I like.
12-16-2006, 12:58 PM
Barney makes the best external frame there is. It is expensive. The pack sack (choices) come separate.
It is the most used backpack in Alaska.
JD HHI 6092
12-18-2006, 04:58 PM
Barney's frame looks kind of like the Cabelas Alaskan II pack.
01-06-2007, 05:16 PM
The first generation Molle 1 (http://www.downeastinc.com/1602.html) frames were a flop with the US Army. There were lots of reported problems from the the thing being uncomfortable to it breaking far too easily...Google "Molle frames" and you will find the reports.
The Molle 4 (http://www.downeastinc.com/1603.html) frame is the latest I can find and that is apparently a lot better although there are still some reports of breakages. The frames in the pictures above look like these latest generation Molle frames..The originals had a strange "tab & socket" to fit the frame to the waist belt and this was one of the main areas of complaint and was dropped in the various Molle upgrades.
I would certainly risk a Molle 4 frame as I figure i am not going to put through the same abuse as someone in the 82nd Airborne is!
If you look on Ebay, you can get these latest Molle frames very cheap sometimes including the Molle appropriate shoulder straps and waist belt...Seen one new for under $50 the other week....The early Molle frames are even cheaper and I have seen used sets of these, including straps and belt, going for $15!
I have a Bullpac and while the frame is very good, the straps and waist belt are crap...they are so heavily padded and badly shaped you just can't get the load to feel secure.
If anybody with one of those plastic frames can give me the measurements, I really would appreciate it...I'm hoping the belt and shoulder straps may fit the Bullpac..
01-07-2007, 12:46 PM
Check out the NICE Frame from Mystery Ranch. Made in Bozeman, MT. Awesome piece of equipment. http://www.mysteryranch.com/catalog/index....;products_id=21 (http://www.mysteryranch.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_7_17&products_id=21)
Here it is in action with a light load on a AK deer hunt.
01-07-2007, 01:56 PM
I use an old Freighter Frame from the 80's. It is the same as Cabela's AlaskanII and infact I have their AII pack on it now. I have taken 3 antelope out of the prarie on it whole, 2 mulies (one halved and one boned out ) off a pretty good sized mountain in Central WY. , and I put a couple smaller Ohio whitetail does on it that I shot for meat ( bowseasons ) and brought each out of pretty steep hollows in Southern Ohio. It has served me well for a lot of years. I am thinking of switching to a Badlands 4500 due to the fact it looks so versatile for packing in, it has a fanny and daypack incorporated into it ,and then taking boned out meat out on the "shelf" it has built into it. If I were starting out it would be one of my primary choices .
01-08-2007, 06:03 AM
Figured out how to attach a photo. Here's the M/R Nice Frame in action.
01-08-2007, 07:05 AM
JD, did you ever get that pack....if so, how 'bout a report?
JD HHI 6092
01-08-2007, 04:32 PM
Ribs that is a good looking deer you got there. That pack frame looks pretty nice.
el vaquero, there's a sportsman's expo next month in Denver. I plan on going and checking things out there. I hope I find a pack frame I can try on and look at. I would like to be able to look at the frame before puchasing it.
I also become aware that Janssens Adventure Outfitters Hard Core Pack use the same molle frame as Wilderness Specialties. So if I go with the Wilderness Specialties frame it's just a matter of how comfortable the shoulder and waist straps are since I've heard nothing but positive review on the hard core pack.
As soon as I get a new pack frame I'll be sure to post.
01-13-2007, 01:55 PM
Good info, thanks http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-jhp-rocks.gif
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