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After looking at several rifles, Rem, Kimber, Cooper, Sako
I am leaning towards the Winchester Coyote in 243. (http://www.winchester-guns.com/prodinfo/catalog/md70/m70_coyote.htm) ###
Has anyone shot one or have any information on the accuracy of these rifles?
Thanks in advance.
(Edited by Hook at 12:39 pm on Dec. 31, 2001)
12-31-2001, 05:35 PM
Get the Howa!:wavin:
12-31-2001, 06:22 PM
Get the Cooper! ###Haven't seen the Coyote yet. ###I'm pretty partial to the .243 though for yotes. ###I'm sure you'll like it.
I might have to liquidate a really nice Winchester M70 Featherweight in .22-250 and a Savage 110 in .223 to pick up a Cooper sometime soon. ###So if anyone needs a good coyote rifle...
Dont' get me wrong, ###I really like the Cooper and the Kimber, but boy are they pricey.
The 243 is my personal favorate too. The Win. Coyote has the features I like, and at a much more reasonable price.
01-02-2002, 08:43 AM
Songdog what would the .223 savage go for when it comes up for sale?
01-02-2002, 03:22 PM
Hadn't thought much about it. ###Sans scope probably $250. ###With Leupold 3-9x, rings and stuff $450. ###The M70 FW in .22-250 would probably be closer to $450 for the rifle and rings. ###No scope sitting on it right now. ###
01-02-2002, 04:17 PM
I've been looking for a .243 myself. Isn't the M 70 Coyote kinda heavy with that barrel? I agree that the Cooper is a great rifle, but it is too pricey! I've been looking at the Rem 700 BDL, Ruger M77, and the Browning A Bolt.
The barrel is a medium heavy barrel and only 24". I plan on using it for coyotes, prairie dogs and maybe deer here in Ca. I had a light barreled Ruger 243 but sold it to get a heavy barreled one. There is nothing wrong with the Rem BDL, Ruger or Brownings. It all depends on what you want to use it for. The light barrels are great if you are hunting on foot and walking a lot, but for what i am gonna use it for (coyotes and prairie dogs) the extra weight is not going to be a major issue.
Yes the Coopers, Kimbers and Sako's are great guns but a bit too much for me right now. (maybe when I hit the lotto, I will get one). ###
01-02-2002, 04:44 PM
I'm planning on using it for Coyote mostly and deer occasionally. Where are you planning on getting the Winchester from? No one around here carries them.
01-02-2002, 04:48 PM
Pony Express in North Hills will order one for you. ###That's what I had to do to get my .22-250 M70 FW.
01-02-2002, 04:58 PM
You keep your hands off, I was planning to ask Songdog that very question. ###Although, maybe we could work out a deal whereas you pay for it and we hide it from your wife at my house? ###I'm just tryin' to help, that's all.
01-02-2002, 05:06 PM
That's a bit far from me. Do any of you know a shop around Bellflower besides Turner's?
01-02-2002, 06:30 PM
I'll bring a few rifles to the Arrowhead coyote shoot and let you guys fight over them :wink-yellow:
You could also try The Stockade in Westminister which should be closer. ###They will probably have it in stock. ###If not, they'll order it too.
01-03-2002, 03:07 AM
01-03-2002, 10:35 AM
I got a Howa Varmint .223 and it's a great rifle, I think so anyways, everyone has there own preferance on what they like but for the money it was well worth it. I'll be bringing mine to Arrowhead, so who ever wants to give it a try ,your more then welcome to.
so cal hunter
01-07-2002, 09:03 PM
Is'nt the howa a rifle from japan and i think they are part of weatherby ###i have a win. steslth in 22/250 with heavy barrel something you really do'nt want to carry far ###this gun is shooting 1/2 group's at 200 yds with hand loads of 55 gr. nosler bal tip and 43 grs. of imr 4350 at 3200 fps . Hey yotegetter there is a gun shop on beach blvd so. of the 22 fwy it is called Excaliber guns and reloading the guy's name is George he was the manager of stockade a few years back but is niw on his own check it out for a small store he has more gun's than turners or b&b sales in westminster prices seem to be the same as the comp. talk to ya later and good luck.
01-07-2002, 10:00 PM
I have seen this rifle and wouldnt mind one 22-250 myself. You know if it says Winchester, its gotta be great!
When are you guys going to Arrowhead and where can you shoot up there? I could bring some of my stuff up too if time permits. Also I was told that there is a hunting and Fishing show at Pomona this w/e. I'll probably go to that.
01-09-2002, 08:56 AM
I am with "Yotegetter" when it comes to the Ruger M77 series. I am looking into getting the .270 from them. If you have a Wal-Mart around you Yote they will order any gun for you that they do not have in stock and they usually beat any other dealers prices.
01-09-2002, 11:29 AM
Ya know, I've been thinking alot about this lately. I'm most likely going to go with the Ruger, but I'm actually thinking between the .243 and the .270. I'm using the rifle mostly for coyote, CA deer, and you never know when you'll run into a pig out there. My uncle hunts his ranch with a .243. He's gotten pigs with a shot or two without having to chase them around, but he's had a couple that he had to track down. I know there's the .270 with the BOSS that has pretty much the same recoil as a .243, but a little more cash. What's your opinions on this?
01-09-2002, 11:46 AM
If it's primarily coyotes then I'd go for the .243. ###While it's not the rifle I would go out and buy for a pig rifle I wouldn't hesitate to put a 100 gr Partition into one in a heart beat.
I think that the [properly loaded premium bullet within 200 yard] .243 is a better pig rifle than the .270 is a coyote rifle (if that makes any sense).
(Edited by songdog at 11:47 am on Jan. 9, 2002)
Songdog, is right the 243 with the proper bullet will do the job on a pigs. If you are primarily shooting at coyotes go with the 243. The Rugers 77's are great guns, I had one for severals years and have no complaints with it at all.
We can always go to the 3-4 gun breakdown.......:smile-big-blue:
01-09-2002, 03:14 PM
I probably should just buy both, eh?
Well, after some long thought, I finally ordered my new rifle. A Remington VLS (http://www.remington.com/firearms/centerfire/700vls.htm) in 243, it has a 26" varmint barrel.
The Winchester Coyote, Kimber and Cooper all had a lengthy wait and were very expensive, so I went for the next best.
All the other Remington varmint rifles don't come in 243, so the VLS was the only choice. I hope to have ###it before the Wister trip.....
02-15-2002, 10:27 PM
Congrats Hook! It was probably more expensive to build one huh? Hope you get it by Wister so we can shoot our new .243s!
Nice rifle Hook! Can't wait to hear how it shoots.
Thanks guys. I don't think I will have it in time for the Wister trip. But I will give you guys a range report when I get it.
(Edited by Hook at 8:48 pm on Feb. 16, 2002)
There is a GOD !!!
I ordered the Rem VLS from Gunfinder.net and sent in the payment the other day, then I found out that they just received a Winchester Coyote and in a 243, just like I wanted orginally. I called up asked if they could change my order to the Winchester instead of the REM and they said "no problem." Boy, talk about luck.
Now I am really excited about getting my new 243. AND I don't have to wait 6 months to get it. :dancinred:
Excellent Hook!!! I'd like to know what glass your going to set this rifle up with. Really can't wait to hear how it shoots.
I have a Nikon Monarch 3-9x40 laying around in my safe, that I will try. If it does'nt work well, I will consider buying a new Leupold.
I can't wait to shoot it. ###:shootin:
02-20-2002, 09:37 PM
Right on Hook!! I just picked up my new Ruger .243. I've been working on installing the Timney I bought for it, but the floor plate and trigger guard screws are locked in tight!
02-20-2002, 10:30 PM
You lucky dog! ###I still haven't heard from my distributer.
Is it the Mini Mag?
I want the coyote 22.250 but my only luck is bad luck.
Congrats to ya.
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