View Full Version : Cut on impact or Other Blades ?
03-19-2002, 09:41 PM
I have a hog hunt booked for May.I am going to Bowhunt one of these critters for the first time.The Outfitter told me to bring and use a Cut on Impact Blade,and not a puncture type like the Muzzys and Satillites.Now my bow shoot a little over 300 ft/sec.And i usually use the Muzzys or Steelhead Mechanical head.And am real confident using them.But the Outfitter just laughed,and said they would just bounce off.Maybe a Bow that shoots with a lot less Kenetic energy.Would be a problem using the puncture type blade for max. penitration.Why wouldnt they work there magic on a hog.Using my set up.Its a Hoyt 2001 Maga-Tec set at 67 lbs.I am just wondering what he knows that i dont that you might !!!
03-19-2002, 09:52 PM
Big hogs can have a pretty thick layer of fatty almost cartilage like stuff right underneath the skin on their shoulders and flanks that can be an inch or more thick. ###I remember skinning one and it came off with the skin. ###The resulting hide was almost 2" thick.
Cut on impact is what I shoot but I'm shooting a 55# recurve with much less energy. ###If this is what you're comfortable shooting and it would mean changing something in a setup that could mean a miss... I'd shoot exactly what you have. ###It's more important to shoot a tough broadhead than a cut on impact style. ###If you can get both in one, all the better. ###I would stay away from the mechanical broadheads with that in mind.
And no, it won't bounce off of them.
03-20-2002, 01:25 PM
Personally I prefer to shoot the cut on impact broadheads like the zwickey or snuffy, but accuracy is more important like Songdog mentioned. ###I shot at a 200+ hog a little too far forward and hit him in the shoulder with a cut on impact and all it did was get stuck right at the broadhead (no penetration) and the hog ran off with my arrow, not a spot of blood anywhere. I would say shoot the ones that are the most accurate and don't aim for the shouder (hehe). Where are you going hunting in May? Which guide? I've got my ears open for a archery hog hunt in CA.
03-20-2002, 08:43 PM
Thanks for your input.The Outfitter is in Southern IL (Paris IL).I am sure the guy knows what he is talking about.And like you said .I would have to change my set up.At 40 yds. i can keep a 3 in grouping.With my set up now.And changing heads means changing shafts,retuning arrows,rest and sights.Ive have been bowhunting a good number of years.To know how critical shot placement and patience are in bowhunting.The outfitters name is Coal Creek Farms by the way.He offers European and Russian hogs on free ranging farm.From what ive seen on there web sites photo gallery.Most hogs are ranging from 160-250 lbs.Thanks again,I just want to be prepared to take a quick and clean kill.Regardless of what it takes to set up the bow for the hunt.
03-21-2002, 10:45 PM
Ive seen a few hogs killed here in California with 125gr thunderhead pro broad heads (fixed type) and they seemed to work well. I think the shot placement is the most important thing. Try to get those lungs! The guys Ive seen lose pigs wasnt due to not enough penetration,but just that the darn pigs are tough and can hide pretty good after being hit, couple that with the fact that they dont bleed externally much too.
03-25-2002, 09:30 PM
I lost two medium sized pigs with perfect lung shots, using expandable broadheads. ###Penetration was mid-shaft using carbon arrows at 60 lbs. with a compound. ###After that, I switched to Thunderhead 125's and added weight tubes to the carbons. ###My arrow weight went up by 100 gr. and the next pig was a passthrough, short trailing job. ###If you shoot expandable broadheads and light weight, fast, arrows, you are looking for trouble with decent sized pigs. ###It can be done, with expandable broadheads, but I'll never use them again. ###It is not fair to the game that you are after.
03-25-2002, 09:47 PM
One of my Pro-Staff members Tim Hicks uses nothing but 125 Grain MUZZY broadheads.
He will not use the Expandable broadheads on hogs.
Tim shot this 160 pound boar while at a bowhunt on the HELM RANCH in Texas, RIGHT BETWEEN THE EYES with a MUZZY, proving MUZZY's slogan that they are BAD TO THE BONE.
Hopefully this link will work.
I am Not A MUZZY spokesperson.
Billy in VA
03-26-2002, 07:16 AM
OK. I finely have infomation on the (WW) Wensel Woodsman 3 blade.
I used it at the Cadena Ranch in South TX last week. ###I used the long 42g broadhead adapter and the total weight of the head was 167g w/adapter. I am shooting a PSE Starker recurv at 55# @ 28" .I have the head on a 29" "GoldTip" carbon shaft. ###
I can say this, everything shot with it dropped in less then 15 yds. And now the rest of the story. I only shot one javaline. A 45 lb sow at about 8 yds from me. ###I was very impressed with the head. I got a compleet pass thru and the little pig droped just out of site. ###The hole left by th ebroadhead was very open, on both sides. ###I like the cut on impact broadheads and I will give this head more trys. ###
This is only a single test point and I need more things to shoot at.
Oh, my son took a 53" rattlesnake while there. I hate snakes!!!!! ###Later ###Billy ###
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