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08-28-2005, 03:12 PM
I will post up more stuff when I get some time. Time is something I do not have much of right now. The pics are in order of kills. 180 noz, via 06....

50' Kudu @ 265 yards..

08-28-2005, 03:16 PM
Zebra. My first Animal taken on sticks. 100 yards.

08-28-2005, 03:20 PM
I got the blues...For my Blue Wildebeest. 250 yards.

08-28-2005, 03:23 PM
Red Hartebeest... 90 Yards.

08-28-2005, 03:26 PM
We ate like this every night...

08-28-2005, 03:30 PM
I hate you!!! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-devil.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-devil.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-devil.gif

No really, nice takes. I can&#39;t wait to hear the stories and see more pics.

Now, in that last pic, please tell me you aren&#39;t the guy in sandals and black socks?!?

08-28-2005, 03:37 PM
4.5&#39; Steenbuck, For some reason It won&#39;t let me post the pic. I will try again in a few.

08-28-2005, 03:48 PM
38.5 Gemsbuck - Approx..200 yards.. I forgot the range finders that day.

08-28-2005, 04:14 PM
22.5&#39; Impala, 45 yards.

08-28-2005, 04:19 PM
13&#39; Warthog. 35 yards. Blew the lungs out and still ran 100 yards until it slammed down like a wet towel. This was one tough pig & I was in Hog Heaven...

08-28-2005, 04:21 PM
Same Hog just a little closer...

08-28-2005, 09:23 PM
Aint got nothing but love for my homies...

08-28-2005, 09:27 PM
what&#39;s up Honky...I mean Arise.

awesome pics. Two questions for you.

1) what if anything do you get to bring home?
2) what happens to all the meat?

Once again http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbs-up-ani.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbs-up-ani.gif

08-28-2005, 09:36 PM
4.5&#39; Steenbuck......

Good God!!! Whats the deal w/ this pic

Kars - What I did not eat out there I donated it to a womens group who are widowed & have kids. I was also told tha 40% of the pop in RSA are infrcted w/ HIV.

08-28-2005, 10:00 PM
you SOB,
I can&#39;t wait to hear the camp fire storys over a ice cold Bulet.

You the man http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-bowdown-purple.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-bowdown-purple.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-bowdown-purple.gif

by the way you going for the opener????

08-29-2005, 07:22 AM
That last photo is hillarious! Nice animals too.

08-29-2005, 08:07 AM
That&#39;s the way to do it, Honky................... & I&#39;m sure it&#39;s not yer last ! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-devil.gif

Great pix................ http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif

308 Sniper
08-29-2005, 09:17 AM
nice pics http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley_kewlpics.gif

08-29-2005, 11:24 AM
Very nice pics and animals! Who did you book the trip through, I&#39;d love to hunt Africa!

08-29-2005, 11:25 AM
Way to go Arise, Nice to have ya back in the states. Awesome pics http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif
Looks like a lot of lifetime dreams came true for sure http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-bowdown-purple.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-gunfighter-yellow.gif

08-29-2005, 12:11 PM
Looks like it was an awesome hunt!

But man, that&#39;s a LOT of potential taxidermy you got there Arise!

08-29-2005, 01:25 PM
congratulations on winning the lottery!! man how much does a trip like that cost?the taxidermy alone will break the bank. do you have any openings where you work? .........all joking aside nice pics cant wait to here the stories......you are the ultimate GREAT WHITE HUNTER!!!! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley_10sign.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley_10sign.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-bowdown-purple.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-bowdown-purple.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-bowdown-purple.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif

08-29-2005, 01:45 PM
Ultimate great White Hunter? Thanks buddy but this was an entry-level Plains Game Hunt. Scroll down and look and some of the Lion & Buffalo hunts. Dangerous game is “Hard Core”. All I needed to do was stalk hard and shoot straight.

I ended up getting everything mounted out there at about ½ the cost. I will pick up my crate at LAX no later then a year from now and fill the walls.

I will go back someday but not to RSA. When I do go back it will possibly be Zambia. I was going to spend some time there but it did not work out.

08-29-2005, 02:12 PM
Jason, WOW! Congrats on the trophys http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif

I can&#39;t wait to see em.

08-29-2005, 03:45 PM
Very nice my friend very nice! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif

08-29-2005, 08:50 PM
I wish you well on that "half the price" quote from RSA. One thing missing in the formula that they RSA folks never tell you is that the freight is not by weight but rather by volume. I have been doing this for a living for a long time now and have never seen a single case of money saved by doing it in RSA. You also end up with the 1930-40&#39;s quality with bug eyes and hidious stitching, aweful paint, drummed ears, and hides that split near the eyes and lips within a couple years. I know lots of great taxidermists in RSA all of them 100% served an apprenticeship in America before they got to the level of American Taxidermy over there. All are much more expensive then the average and have a very long delivery time. These are the elite, or what in America would be slightly above average for taxidermy work!

As far as shipping goes, I have seen some costs range from really expensive to insanely expensive! Brokers charge based on the value of the container. Their percent of the bill will now be based on finished goods and the insurance papers on the freight. Compared to dry salted skins and horns which have no measurable value. Albert Chichelero sent back 8 animals shoulder mounts and his broker fee and shipping was $3010.00 bucks. Worse yet the work sucked but was already paid in full when he recieved the crate. I have been bringing him back capes so he can have a local taxidermist re-do the mounts a few a year until they are all finished. His experience was not at all unique. What you see on the walls there and what you get in the crate are almost never the same!

I have a lot of buisiness interests there and a lodge. I could make an additional percent of money by sending my hunters to any one of a dozen taxidermists there. I would never put my name on any part of this business in RSA. Just as an Example, I had a Genet cat mounted lifesize in RSA by a Taxidermist with 30 years experience there. He owns one of the largest studios in the country. Now I have been doing taxidermy for about 25 years and owned my own business and shop for a long time. I no longer do taxidermy for a buisness, only my own things. This Taxidermest wanted to do the taxidermy for my hunters, not just the pack and dip. I said it was entirely up to the hunters not me. HE suggested I have him do a mount for me som that my American Hunters could see the quality of his work back in the states and make their own decision. I said fine, I have this Genet Cat mount it Life size for me.

So he does this with the knowledge that it will be on display for the hunters to look at and see how great his quality is. ............Well when somebody see&#39;s my trophy room they can pick out that Genet every time as "not quite right" and I always say to them that was "stuffed" in RSA not "mounted" by me. I never have to suggest where they have the work done again!

08-30-2005, 05:22 AM
Very nice photo&#39;s. Looks like you had a great time~! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif

08-31-2005, 09:16 AM
I envisioned that you were going to go get one or two quality animals. This exceeded all expectations. I&#39;ll bet the womens groups are so happy to have some quality meals coming their way.

You are a class act Sir.

08-31-2005, 10:09 AM
Hey jjhack at least you didn&#39;t rain on his parade. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-shakehead-blue.gif Even if you are right about the mounts, I mean come on.

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..Well when somebody see&#39;s my trophy room they can pick out that Genet every time as "not quite right"[/b]

I&#39;ve never seen a Genet Cat that looks quite right. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-wow-eyes-yellow.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-sideways-laff-aqua.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-sideways-laff-aqua.gif



08-31-2005, 09:21 PM
Jason -

Your an AnimalCracker !!! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-bowdown-purple.gif (not a Honky http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-sideways-laff-aqua.gif )

Truly Awesome !! I am so glad you had an excelent hunt !! My wife was more in awe by your pics than me (Only because I believe in you so much. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-wnk-yellow.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif )

09-02-2005, 11:25 AM
Jack -

You were dead on w/ the shipping. They still won&#39;t gice me any kind of a quote as far as shipping goes. They only tell me that a broker would take care of it. I told them to dip it and ship it.

Thanks! I think you just saved me around 3 k. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbs-up-ani.gif

09-02-2005, 11:50 AM
My last 2 shipments that came out of Tanzania............ hunt was August 04............
landed in customs in Houston March 05............. shipping, Broker taxes etc.... $1100 & the other $1300............. six animals each.

Hides at the Tannery as we speak & should be complete this month September.


09-02-2005, 09:19 PM

I&#39;ve been waiting since Raahauges to hear about your safari. Last week, Benelli had a special on hunting in Namimbia (?) and it sure looked a lot like what you pulled off. I am one jealous hunter. Congrats on the awesome hunt and photos!! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-faces-toast-beers.gif

Honey, where&#39;s my passport?????? http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-idea-blu.gif

09-02-2005, 10:40 PM
I told them to dip it and ship it.

Jason ?

You lost me

09-03-2005, 10:34 AM
you are the man arise.. you did kill and eat... http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-bowdown-purple.gif http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-bowdown-purple.gif

great job my friend.. great... wounderful pics.. didn&#39;t see the video yet but really looking forward to see it.. http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smiley-2drunks-singing.gif

09-04-2005, 08:43 AM
That is a good plan, the dip pack is still not cheap but pennys compared to a crate full of mounts. Plus the turn around will be far shorter.

The big advantage once the trophies are here at home is that you can have the local taxidermist mount them inthe order you choose and do one every few months or at what ever schedule meets with your needs and cash.

In RSA all are done before they ship and you don&#39;t get them any sonner then the last one. Being done here you can have at least one or two fairly quick once the hides and hons show up at the taxidermy.

I quite often have my hunter consign the crate to the tannery in the USA directly so they can get that started immediatley. Tanning can be 1-3 months in the USA and then your work gets into the "que" at the Taxidermy. One thing I have noticed is that if you strike a deal with the chosen taxidermist in the USA for the whole Safari you can usually work a deal to have him jump on the first mount of the batch which you can choose the day he gets the tanned capes back from the tannery.

One final suggestion is that you should not deal with a Taxidermy business in the USA that claims to do thier own tanning. Stick with a commercial taxidermy that uses a real tannery. Those hides from Africa come as hard as a rock and require professional attention. They are not like fresh salted deer capes. I cannot even count the amount of replacement capes I have had to get for the "do it yourself" tanners out there.

Trust one of the big dogs to get this done right for you. New Method in San Francisco is one of the biggest African Game tanneries in the world. You can consign the trophys to them and they have a local broker(heckney) that will clear the crate (including warthogs or bushpigs) and then get it to the tannery in the same town. It&#39;s a simple process with decnet turnaround by people who do this full time with African businesses. The Biggest dip pack business in RSA is on a first name basis with the management at New Method in SFO. Thats how much work they do together.

If you have any questions on how to make this smooth and effortless just let me know. It&#39;s my business and I have been at it a long time now. We have taken just shy of 300 hunters through our camp now!

10-04-2005, 01:53 PM
I&#39;ve heard it&#39;s a lot cheaper to have it tanned there and mounted here, but I&#39;ve also heard that hides come here damaged with extra holes, etc., whether they are just dipped or tanned there. How reliable or safe is the dipping and/or tanning? If it&#39;s a lot cheaper to have it tanned there and it costs the same to ship it tanned or just dipped, it seems like it is better to tan it there. Anyone with experience please speak up.

10-29-2005, 03:26 PM
If you decide tom gom we can discuss your options. A lot depends on the species your gonna bring home and the work you want done. Flat skins tan there, Zerbra rugs have them done there. Shoulder mounts have then dip packed and tanned and mounted here. Tanning is a personal thing your Taxiudermist will want to handle. As I said we can sort out the details of that later if you want to come hunt with us we will help you and get you through the process based on what you want done with the best results for your specific needs.

12-14-2005, 11:59 AM
Great photos, thinking about doing an archery hunt next year for similar animals.

One question: (mny more later when this trip start to some up, i know I gave tosatrt booking soon)

WHat is dipping?

JJ: Is there a price difference for archery hunters?

12-14-2005, 05:38 PM
Bubba, were you drinkin when you posted that reply?

JJ, what do you know about Zimbabwe as far as taxidermists goes?

I&#39;m hunting with Nengasha Safaris in October &#39;06

Shay Mann
12-15-2005, 12:46 PM
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One question: (mny more later when this trip start to some up, i know I gave tosatrt booking soon)[/b]

Damn Bubba, lay off the sauce when posting "mad noel:

12-22-2005, 07:00 AM
Sorry for the delay in responding guys, I travel a whole lot and not every hotel has good internet access.

No difference in price for archery or gun. However there is no pacakage huntes for archery because there is no way I can be certain an archery hunter will take all the game in the package. So we just do daily fee and trophy fee hunts. Archery is so much harder then firearms and the skills of the hunters are so different that It&#39;s a high risk for me to sell an Archery hunt in a package. However If you go and shoot all the game that is listed in the package I will give that price to you. My Archery hunts must be 1X1 also so that is a little extra for the benifit of 1X1

I would not spend a nickle in that corrupt anti white government. All I can say is good luck if you go and good luck if you expect to see you trophies in the USA anytime!.

Andreas at the dip pack a few years ago had a dozen Buffalo he could not ship out due to impropper paperwork. There was no leverage because they were all paid in full to the government and the poor hunters had no way of putting pressure on them. They were just SOL on the deal. Cheap hunts there for a reason. Zim outfitters are struggling to stay alive in a country that wants them to leave because they are white. Go to the state department travel warning website. Our own US government suggests againast travel to Zim right now and has for about a year. Why risk the stress and idiots running that country when RSA, Zambia, Namiba and many others are so safe and welcome White people and buisness?

03-01-2006, 01:37 PM
Wow, good work, those are awesome! by the looks of that tree its no wonder that blue wildebeast went down.